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Obama's Sour Notes When listening to Senator Barack Obama, I am reminded of "The Pied Piper of Hamelin." The Pied Piper blew just three sweet notes from his flute and with the rhythm of those repeated three notes; he lured all the of the village, save one. Like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, Senator Obama is capturing many American voters by constantly repeating his three sweet but undefined notes, "Change, hope, and future." I asked myself, how could so many people be led along by a politician who is saying nothing? Then it hit me, Senator Obama is really a smart guy! Like the Pied Piper, he just plays the same three notes in rhythm, change, hope, and future, which seems to be a mesmerizing tune to many politically weary voters. Why should he ever clearly define the notes when everyone seems willing to follow just the melody? The Pied Piper of Hamelin played his three notes and accomplished his goals. Unfortunately, for Senator Obama, the day may soon arrive when he must explain his vision of change, hope, and future. When that day comes, he may find his notes play flat with many American voters. VICKY |
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2/26/2008 4:43 pm |
TOUCH I guess you cannot counter the facts that Nikon is putting forth. You have demonstrated your total lack of understanding of the Asian American point of view concerning these incidents. Most Asians don't care about Jim Crow. This is now. I have never owned a slave. I do not own a slave. And I have no intention of owing the Black community anything at all. Therefore, this discussion is ended. Case closed. VICKY
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2/26/2008 8:55 am |
Jim Crow Guide: The Way it Was
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2/25/2008 11:24 pm |
Interesting. And what are the stats for Asians, if available? Vicky
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2/25/2008 9:32 pm |
NIKON & TOUCH Why are so many Afro-American on welfare? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why are so many Afro-Americas on welfare for several generations? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why does a teenage black male have to go to jail as a Rite of Passage? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why are so many Afro-Americans addicted to cocaine and heroin? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why are the prisons of America filled with young black male? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why does a typical Afro-American family not have a father as head of household? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why does each sibling of an Afro-American family have its own separate father? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why did Afro-Americans riot against the Korean American Community in Los Angeles after the Rodney King verdict? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why did Afro-Americans vandalize the Jewish Community of Brooklyn in 1990? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why did Afro-Americans vandalize and steal from the stores of NYC during the 1977 power blackouts? Nikon What is your citation on this? Touch Any facts to counter this? Why did black civil rights leader Al Sharpton create lies about Tawana Browney being by police officers in Poughkeepsie, NY? Touch Any facts to counter this?
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2/25/2008 9:24 pm |
Gee Touch All I wanted was a simple answer to the questions Nikon asked and instead I get a long lecture about us needing to know about Black and racial history. ALL I WANT IS YOUR OPINION TO EACH OF THE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT NIKON ASKED. THAT IS ALL I WANTED. EITHER YOU AGREE WITH THE BLACK POSITION OR DISAGREE WITH THE BLACK POSITION. The most recent example is what happened to the WHITE students at Duke University who were accused of by a BLACK student who it was later proved was lying about the incident. To date, no BLACK leader has apologized for the incident but at the height of the controversy, every BLACK leader in America was leading the "lynching party" against these students. So my question to you is this, and it is a very simple question, DO YOU CONDONE REVERSE DISCRIMINATION THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE A FALSE ACCUSATION OR IS IT TO BE AN ACCEPTED COST OF BEING AN ASIAN IN AMERICA? That is all I want to know, nothing more. VICKY
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2/25/2008 5:55 pm |
TOUCH & NIKON My goodness, you are like two little boys throwing mud balls at each other in the schoolyard. You know I seldom enter a discussion between two people but in this case, I think that Nikon has raised some interesting questions. Now, I have a feeling that Touch really does not support what caused the issues that Nikon brings up. However, Touch, you have to understand that these questions are often brought up at meetings when we are asked to support the Black Community. You know, it is amazing to me that when we go to a Black meeting to seek support the first question they ask is, "What have you done for us lately?" However, when they need help, our leaders always ask this question, "Why have you done this to us?" Therefore, I am just going to ask Touch to please address each of these issues and educate us on the background for why they happened. Moreover, please keep it short. Respecting your right to a fair brawl. VICKY but you may ask yourself, why does the fight go on for EEOC issues, why does it go on for various other acts of fighting discriminatory process, why have the lending institution constantly being addressed about unfair lending practices and many many things that are left over issues from the civil rights initiatives.. if one look deeply into many system of this nations support, they might be surprised to see how many others are on system aid of various sorts.. some may be shocked..to see who receives this aid.. as to group participants... any group is looking for what other bring to contribute to the group.. also visit some of the internet sites, that talk about economic competition in ethnic climates.. when ethnic mix is factored in. I have a feeling that Touch really does not support what caused the issues that Nikon brings up the background of why things happen.. is quite simple.. " research race in america, and what is and how is discrimination".. and how it differs in it's applications across the expanse. now for short.. that.. should provide some avenues for grasping greater depth by the research to get perspective to much of this. personal experience, I've experienced it first hand, in employment matters, but I don't go about saying white people are this or that.. I deal with the fact .. the individual that invoked this act, is whom I addressed,.. and I won the ruling thru the EEOC, as a result of the acts that took place.. But also, my win, benefited others, by having this process not to dominate the work landscape.. it made ways for others to advance, not just blacks but others. I have a standing case now, of retaliatory discrimination.. which resulted from this same situation.. and it has received the sanction of the Federal agency which handles this also.. I fought for years .. when the better paying position were denied to many blacks and others.. and got that opened to opportunities for many.... But what I don't carry around is some racist attitude against white people.. I address it as a one to one matter, and if that has to include the company then so be it, if they supported it. here in this city as an example.. take the Casino's they will hire Blacks and Asian to work the gaming tables but not allow them to have the positions in offices of the executive level, I gave you a demonstration about the contract, with the city for legal, and for the convention center which each of you carefully overlooked.. when only the lowest paying jobs are provided and the contracts are biased.. then the economic disparity is evident. now multiply that many times, and spread it across a wide expanse and your answers will be clear.. I attended an SBA seminar, a woman who had a small shop wanted funding, they would not even give her a collateral backed loan.. and she was contesting it.. multiply that across the nation. there are many many things... which exist.. people call the reasons .. excuses when they don't want to see what exist.. so I need not point out further details that will be anything but acknowledged... as to Nikon.. he has a terrible disposition and a deeply racist attitude, and it's not even reasonable for me to comment with him further.. as some people will never see beyond their own perceptions.
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2/25/2008 4:08 pm |
TOUCH & NIKON My goodness, you are like two little boys throwing mud balls at each other in the schoolyard. You know I seldom enter a discussion between two people but in this case, I think that Nikon has raised some interesting questions. Now, I have a feeling that Touch really does not support what caused the issues that Nikon brings up. However, Touch, you have to understand that these questions are often brought up at meetings when we are asked to support the Black Community. You know, it is amazing to me that when we go to a Black meeting to seek support the first question they ask is, "What have you done for us lately?" However, when they need help, our leaders always ask this question, "Why have you done this to us?" Therefore, I am just going to ask Touch to please address each of these issues and educate us on the background for why they happened. Moreover, please keep it short. Respecting your right to a fair brawl. VICKY
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2/25/2008 3:29 pm |
In a very old post, not too many months ago I suggested that maybe Obama would be a good candidate since he seems to have less baggage then any other candidate, Republican, Democrat, or Independent. In addition, I would probably vote for him in the end once he tells me exactly what he plans to do and that will be in the party platform. My greatest interests are economy, tax policy, immigration, education, national security, and business development. Once he commits to those policies then I believe people will then be able to create the matrix to compare him with the Republican candidate and in the end choose the lesser of two evils. Economy - How will he stimulate the economy and where will he obtain the funding to create these jobs? Tax policy - Death tax worries our family a lot because we have worked hard to get to where we are now. Elimination of the Death Tax causes a large financial burden on our family and in turn on the ability of our business to survive and in turn the economic future of our workers. Immigration - Everyone came from somewhere else, some like the Native Americans got here earlier then others. Believe it or not but illegals in the USA are causing a major disservice to many American workers because it brings the wage structure down and it eliminates entry level jobs for our children who in turn then have to aim for higher paying jobs that are no longer available here in America. Education - It was possible for me to skip three grades in school because the subjects were so watered down and my elder brother and sisters tutored me at home. In America, we throw more money at people who have caused the problem of the dumbing down of the education system and who are responsible for the importation of medical professionals, technical professionals, and even teachers from overseas to fill our critical shortages in this country. Even our education system teaches children that flipping burgers is below their ability so no one wants an entry-level job. National Security - I only ask two things. Protect my family and friends from people who want to kill us because we believe in a free society. Second, protect this country from people who would impose their twisted values on us. My brother is a reserve officer pilot who has been called back to active duty two times already. I think our family has paid our dues in protecting this nation, unlike some other people who choose not to do so. Business Development - My goodness, this country has given a family of poor immigrants to rise from the gutter, great education, and economical opportunities that you cannot find anywhere else in the world. Yet there are people in politics today who have never created a job, never created a company that gives jobs to workers, never ever run a real company (besides sitting on a corporate board), who somehow claim to understand how to create jobs and economic opportunity. They seek to punish success by raising taxes on profits, imposing policy and procedures that make our products less productive then those made overseas, imposing regulations on us to support social issues and benefits the worker should shoulder themselves since it is not part of the job description and then berate us for moving production overseas. I do not know about talking points because I do not subscribe to any. However, these are my concerns as well as my family and friend's concerns. All of the politicians have addressed these concerns in their own way. In the end, whether we choose the best candidate or the lesser of two evils depends on how you look at the issues. I am just exercising my opinion to free speech just as I respect yours. VICKY
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2/25/2008 2:08 pm |
Nikon you said: You exemplified the white man villain that the black community identified as the cause of the 'White Man's Burden'. don't speak on what you don't know.. the Black man works with the political process, thru their coalitions.. there were many whites who worked in the civil right movements side by side with the black man.. MLK did not fight for the black man as a single category, they fought for all people.. and you are one who benefits from that fight, but yet you resent participation.. but you fail to look back and see it was the struggles that blacks and white found a point of resolve, which opened the same doors you are so happy to walk thru.. which you were at one time denied entry into such.. you understand so little of so many things, that you think in small caption..which you exemplify in your utterances.. In this country .. if the blacks had waited on Asian to put up the fight for equality, we'd still be waiting.. Blacks have asked Asian for nothing , but to join in the equality spectrum, participate in the equality model.. There are companies that can't even do businss with some Asian business, because some of them don't have or practice the equal employment standard.. there are some business that are too much assuming that someone is asking them for something, to the point they don't see nor care to see.. that to be in this model of america, they have to embrace what is inclusion.. not just from the side of them seeking inclusion, but from the side of them as well offering to be open for other to be included.. now you don't do anything to promote that concept... but what do people see in general.. in Asian countries, is a primary .. exclusion mentality that is pervasive in some countries.. but to want to be in this country and blend with this country.. the mindset should be "inclusion" bilaterally. Not balking.. with this.. I got mine and thank you very much, now other go get theirs.. when you've made yours off of others.. America is great because of bilateral participations, working within communities and contributing back into those communities, that is what this nation of America is about.. that fight was waged with Japan, whom wanted to sell their goods to the US but did not want to buy US goods, that same fight is happening with China, where they want to sell their goods but they don't want to buy American goods.. they don't want to contribute to world help program, they want not to give back.. and that backlash is nationally waged.. along with the dumping of inferior products and not even wanting to meet the standards, and circumventing the process and under reporting... it's in the national headlines every day.. so Living in America is one thing, but to fully integrate and adopt it's ideology is what needs to take place.. you may care to sit down and look with your eyes open.. and you mind engaged to what is realism of what this nation is..and how it works to become more a place of intergration and to be of an inclusions ideology.. " bilaterally" no person nor place or community.. sits idle while another comes into their community and reap a profit but contribute not back into that community... wars are fought behind that very simple premise.. but you'd have to think about what you are too prejudice to think about, and that's understanding "fair share".. but you .. individually are only acting to reinforce what many continue to face .. and that.. the lack of cooperative work with the Asian.. because of their closed door, and closed community mindset. but fortunately many of us have met many Asian who are willing to work with others, who do have an inclusions mindsets, and who are not eaten up to the core with racism, as you present... so you do no justice to the struggling Asian who care to blend in .. rather.. you present a image which expect that society should stand to the side and yield and let Asian walk in grab what they want and contribute nothing to the community they reap from.. and give them political pathways without them joining the coalitions that build pathways.. and then you want to glaot about achievements.. you want to ignore much, of the many many low interest loans and delayed taxations and the communities that were given to Asian in this country who came as refugees.. it was those same white and black and others, who make up the government.. that put these provision in place to help others.. it's the same country that is of whites and blacks and others, who made provision for other to come and get the low cost business loans and the programs to make that possible.. Unitl you become a black person, and face the loan denials, then you may never understand why .. those Asians, who build their shops in ethnic neighborhoods, can gain the money off of those communities to send their kids to school.. there is more that you don't know about many things... yet you spout off like a mad man... filled with hate at the same system of people who make your achievements possible.. you insult the many many Asian people who are with their own gratitude of what this country offers.. and you slam the same whites you seek to emulate and you slam the black people whom you have no idea of their lives... beyond your biased bigotry mindset.. it's quite sad... that .. one could or would claim to be educationally aspired, but yet be with such lack of understanding of so much. You do a great dis-service to the many many Asian who embrace what is America and the ways within this land and it's people.
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2/25/2008 10:31 am |
Nikon... you are filled with Racist Ignorance.. there is no simply way to state it.. you have some concept that being Asian makes you more than you are.. but it is doing more to push the arrogance of your racist demeanor and your bigotry filled commentary... You insult decent Asian people, and you push forth that image of the seperatness of mindsets that is so often pushed of Asian being people who are more into exclusion, than inclusion. and this is pervasive of the exclusionist mindset.. and you are a pure example of it.. Asian's themselves should be insulted that you even come on here with your sad disposition.
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2/25/2008 8:38 am |
Re-read your own comment and you just might understand how the conversation addressed $50 plate.
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2/25/2008 8:35 am |
Nikon... the only thing I will say to you is.... there's a disparity in comprehension... you sorely missed the point no matter how it's addressed.. but you are most certainly welcome to do so.. but thanks for the commentary..
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2/24/2008 11:08 am |
Let me see. You have a mom & pop operation with only a 3% profit margbin. You have to run the store almost 18 hours a day just to make sales. All the kids work in the store. And you expect them to hire someone from the local economy? A business buys a building in the "wrong" part of town. They put up a sign looking for skilled workers but no one comes to get hired. We have specific skills we are looking for and require a background check. So we hire 40 people who come from outside the area who are able to do the work we need done. So Rainbow Coalition wants a donation and we don't give. A Black mayor suggests we pay for protection. Hmmm, doesn't sound right to me so we move out of the city. Very short discussion. Why should we be the ones to create opportunity for those in the neighborhood when even their own people won't open or operate a business in those neighborhoods? I don't believe in any Mayor any place asking anyone to pay protection.. That alone is enough to call the TV station and address, and no coalition should "try to extort money from any business".. they are not some government agency that requires people to pay them.. I don't dispute the stand about the people not opening their own business. but there are more things within that.. premise. I've written here in the Newspaper forum, about this same point.. and I've also talked to people and see some of the bottleneck points. but I also have addressed this .. Louisiana offers tax incentives to Movie production companies, and I wrote about asking this very simple question.. Why the Black entertainers are not collectively investing in the Media industry within this state, with the tax breaks and other things they have done to make production easy.. I don't want to see them open some " black business". but a " business that is not designated as being a black business but just "A business".. that caters to all people who care to get into the entertainment arena. I have talked with the city director who manages this, and they are wide open for ideas and cooperative business.. now that matter I think should be acted upon by the black entertainers who come her to shoot on other projects, but its developing .. Denzel made his movie in the region, Great Debaters, and Ice Cube is here now doing a shoot. but I'd like to see them build studios.. but I don't think the market is yet up to volume to motivate that project, they already have 3 with the ground breaking on a 100 million project downtown. but I can give you examples of what impeads black.. I attended the city council meeting which addressed this issue. they had a 55 million dollar contract for the building of the Convention center, and the council was addressing why the black contractors were left out of the loop, first they tried to say they did not have the license,.. but the audience was full of licensed contractors, then they said they did not have the insurance bond, they each had the insurance bond, because it is required by the state to have the license.. then they said their bond was not high enough, then the city itself disclosed that the project had it's own bond which covered the over all project and the project had a built in over for gap coverage. they came up with so many excuses.. they had no answer when it was disclosed that the white contractors that were given the job, had undocumented labor filling their ranks, the whole things was a mess.. the project went 255 day over completion schedule. cost the city a lot of money and the company posted a false report on the news of what it awarded to minority contractors, which includes women.. the records show they lied about the % of minority which was suppose to be 25%, they even lower it to 20% but the project coordinator could not even show he complied above 15 or so %.. the same thing happen at the council when it addressed Law firms that have city contracts.. out of 30 there was less than 5 minority, including women, who had contracts.. and of 25 others, a single one out of the total of 25 .. had a contract that was worth more than the 5 put together.. there are reasons and examples why the ongoing CR acts and EEOC fights continue in this country... it was the same thing in LA.. when it came to home insurance some years back.. they redlined the black areas, but were issuing policies in high % fire zones, mud slide zones and many such things. people look at blacks and say why this and why that.. funding is not as readily available to black.. and people care not to believe that reality... because they don't want to believe that.. when you look at the core of reality.. it has many pictures people don't want to see.. the demographic changed in this Area.. they closed down the whole mall and moved it to another area.. not only are the blacks devastated by this, but the whites that are still in the area are furious.. but now they are together trying to build back the commerce in that area. but there is more than many care to see .. but if you really look into the over all of things.. there may be some very eye opening things to see.
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Too much to comment on in the last 24 hours on this topic, but I will say one thing in response to a name mentioned by Vicky. I believe that if Colin Powell had successfully stood for President (at the right time), this world would be a safer place for everyone. 9/11 would never have happened because he would not have drawn the world into a situation where the lunatics felt the need for it to happen. He may have been from a military background but he was wise enough to know that the military is not the best weapon to use when one is seeking a reliable, long-term solution to a problem. In these days of "sound-bite" politics there are very few people who can truly be called "statesmen". Colin Powell's name undoubtedly deserves to be on that esteemed list. May your God go with you.
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2/23/2008 9:28 pm |
Let me see. You have a mom & pop operation with only a 3% profit margbin. You have to run the store almost 18 hours a day just to make sales. All the kids work in the store. And you expect them to hire someone from the local economy? A business buys a building in the "wrong" part of town. They put up a sign looking for skilled workers but no one comes to get hired. We have specific skills we are looking for and require a background check. So we hire 40 people who come from outside the area who are able to do the work we need done. So Rainbow Coalition wants a donation and we don't give. A Black mayor suggests we pay for protection. Hmmm, doesn't sound right to me so we move out of the city. Very short discussion. Why should we be the ones to create opportunity for those in the neighborhood when even their own people won't open or operate a business in those neighborhoods?
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2/23/2008 9:18 pm |
I don't believe I am a racist although I know how to push the right buttons to seem that way. When you understand my family has been treated by Blacks in a way that some would call racists then you would understand why I don't feel comfortable with the overall Black leadership and community. However, I do hold in high regard many Blacks who hold the same views that I do and have reached the same achievement level that I have. In fact, I hold in high regard many Black professors I have met over the years and some of my Black classmates who share my values. When our family first arrived in SF, my father purchased a corner market in a very poor side of town (no wonder it was so cheap) and we had to deal with Black customers who didn't like us. We worked hard and made the business such a success so that my father sold the business a few years later so he could open a restaurant in a better part of town. That restaurant enabled my father to open an import business that was again located in the "wrong" part of San Francisco and soon he was visited by members of the Rainbow Coalition and asked to make a "donation" to the group and hire some of the locals. This amounted to distortion. When my father did not contribute, one of our trucks was burned and part of the warehouse was burned. We also had two of our watch dogs killed. He complained to the mayor (who was black) and was told that he should make the contribution. My father did not and he moved his business out of San Francisco. We are quite successful now and we did this without the help of any government agency. We have over 100 people working in the company in the U.S. However, because of the many mandates created by the government, our labor costs are increasing faster then our ability to expand the business. So a few years ago, my father moved much of the operation overseas and we are now in the process of down sizing our U.S. operations. Now, as to why I don't feel comfortable with Obama it is partly due to his race and partly due to his economic policy. The race issue is because many of the Blacks in the SF area feel that minorities should band together to elect a Black president. I use the term Black because that is what they call him. Now if they could call him an American then I would feel more comfortable with that. However, having dealt with a Black leadership in San Francisco that did not do much for Asians when it came to racial conflict with the Black community then maybe you can understand some of the concerns from some of the Asian business community. Just because Obama is a member of a minority class does not mean he shares our same minority concerns. Now if Colin Powell were running for President I would be willing to participate actively in his campaign. He is a centrist and I know his positions on many issues. Powell is not really a career politician, unlike Obama. So am I a racist. I don't think so. I just have a difference of opinion with the Black leadership when it comes to how they have dealt with our community in the past. As for the White community, we don't have the problem of "owing" them anything. My Opinion VICKY The neighbor I first lived in when I moved to LA had an Asian run market.. and they were well liked and during that time.. many of the lawn services were handled by Japanese.. During the 80's I think the drug epidemic ran people crazy.. and many people just became nuts .. and many areas feel into chaos and massive crime... when I was in LA during the summer.. I did not like it and could not wait to leave... there were areas where Latin did not want the blacks and blacks did not want the Latin... and the Latin gangs were sending out hits on blacks from prison and the retaliatory acts just Continued to escalate.. I watched carefully where I would go.. I don't like crime and avoid it.. but there are many areas that I've gone in when I had no problems from people.. My long time friend , a Japanese man, was renovating homes, he bought houses in watts and Compton, and he at first said he was afraid.. but he went there to work on his homes.. and said.. first the blacks came up and ask him if he had work, when he told them it was a small crew that had been with him and he did not need work.. he said they told him.. they would look out for his house for him.. and he said he never had any problems and they generally came around to joke with his crew.. when there is economic disparity there will be conflicts.. this is what happen in Watts during the 1960's .. the jewish merchants owned all the business and profited off the black neighborhood but would not hire the people from the neighborhood... and that is not what any group will accept.. I've seen Asian vegetable places in black neighborhoods with mexican worker... and eventually the people will stop patronizing it... because all communities like to see money circulate back in their community.. You go to and Irish neighborhood, and open a business the Irish Mafia may visit and ask for protection money, and many other things.. there are Asian neighborhood.. that the Asian gangs come and ask protection money... the neighbor who lived across from me.. moved his business in early 2000 to Orange country... and some of the Asian shop keepers were being followed home and robbed by Asian gangs.. so he sold that business and bought a AmPm conveniences store, and he moved into a gated community.. not far from his home across from me.. he was afraid of being targeted by the Asian gang in a follow home robbery.. You go to New York in parts and want to do construction work.. if you don't pay the mob you will not be doing work in their regions.. A friend of mine who is black had Diesel dump trucks, he could not get listed for hauls, because that was controlled and he had to pay "not the union" but the mob people who threatened his trucks if they saw him hauling anything. remember back in the era of the War of this nation for Independence, the British held one thought across their ranks.. to be mindful that they will have to establish commerce with the local people after the conflict is finished. So any time any people move a business to a single ethnicity area.. they should hire in within that community some of their work force.. the company I worked for.. had a policy.. that was standard.. they had to do 25% of their business with the business in the localized community.. If I wanted to move to Thailand and open a business and hire everyone but Thais.. they'd burn me out in a flash.. not only that, the government would give me a hell of a hard way to go.. If a black business moved into an all Asian neighborhood.. they would not even enter the business to patronize it.. regardless how nicely it may be laid out.. there is protectionism mentalities in the human being.. and there are community guidelines within society... spoken and unspoken.. when the Iranian dominated the service stations in the late 70's and early 80's they hired people within the communities and they did not have major problems.. they had loyal customers.. you can best believe in you moved your business in a all white neighborhood.. and the whites wanted manufacturing jobs and you did not hire any of them.. you'd have problems.. but when you have jobs that the white are not interested in then it's a non issue..because the whites are looking for higher paying jobs with better benefits.. but if the market of jobs tighten up and they want those jobs and you don't hire them ... you will have problems... what do you think is happening in border city and big cities, .. the job market is tight and now whites want those jobs they use to not care about .. but the mexicans have those jobs.. so there is hell in the city for the mexicans all across this nation.. they got troubles in the construction industry, and even lawn care service.. many whites now see the profits that can be gained from lawn care, and since the manufacturing jobs are gone, they are fighting hand and foot, to get those lawn jobs.. here in the south.. there are more white men with truck with trailers with lawn equipment.. 10 15 years ago.. they did not want these jobs.. now they want them and make ... and some jobs that use to not require license.. they now require it, there use to be Mexican handi men, all over the place.. but now they are many of them independent white handy men.. who have their business license as handi men and they will call the code enforcers if they see any Latins doing these jobs,..without a logo on their truck and a tax id of some sort they can produce.. it's got so bad in border cities.. they go in and raid companies and hold the people in detention.. and those people's kids come home wondering where is mom and pops.. but it's unfortunate that no one explained this to your father when he chose to buy and open a business in the US. This may not be a concept that Asian, grasp when they first move here and consider business.. especially when they are from a locality where everyone is Asian of a select cultural norm in an Asian country.. but in the diversity of the United states, the element of it's diversity is in and of itself a matter that the business has to engage diversity.. and even more so if it moves into a area where it is a minority moving into a majority of another ethnicity.. But the person who sold your family the business probably should have explained some of the cultural idioms of living and doing business in america and it's varieties of demographic landscape.. and your experience may have been far different.. this is probably something the Chamber of commerce should take up as a general practice to teach any Immigrating foreigner of how to do business in the enviornment.. but what happens mostly is the seller of the business is more interested in selling the business and gaining a profit than to be concerned about the new owner being brought up to speed of these things .. but that should be something that should be standard practice ... for any foreign person who cares to open business in the US. I asked these kind of question when I was last in Thailand.. because I know such things become a very big issue.. if I care to want a problem free successful business there.. nobody messes with white people no mater where they open a business, because they already understand that the white people set up the system in this country and they know how it works.. and how to enlist wrath on anyone that would tell them anything.. but most whites in many of these areas will hire people from the neighborhood when they hope their business.. even the small stores in the area.. or they find out how can they best work with the people.. which means .. if it's a poor neighborhood, they extend them credit, they make friendly chatter and various things.. because they have many many years of experience of doing business in the many diverse single ethnicity neighborhoods. but things are so intense now because contempts have escalated on both sides.. from this understanding not being put forth years ago.. and over time.. it just has festered from one generation to the next.. and with the job disparity the tensions of that.. have spilled into the social network... here in this city.. there's a section that is mostly black that I go to to visit relatives.. and there's a store with Iranians that own it.. they have on some shift a couple of black people who work there, but they joke with the people and the people like joking with them and trying to communicate on how do you say this or that in their language and such things.. and the build a bond. when a business is visited by either a mob, gang or some cultural group it generally becase they have received complaints that they won't hire a certain people... and in this country that's illegal.. to discriminate based on race, ethnicity and such things.. and it does not matter what kind of business it is.. this is the law.. Civil Rights was fought for this reason among others.. and if the people had taken it to the EEOC they levy heavy penalties on business for discriminatory practices.. and they will prosecute and the cost will be high... so this is something that many more of the Immigrants need to truly know when they come to this country with hopes of doing business.. generally the only thing exempt is one person business, and strictly family business where there is no one working there that is not a family member.. No one in other countries nor in this country or communities.. will ever allow any business to move to any locality that does not hire people within and from that community.. the whole premise of cities and community economics.. is their ability to have and to recycle a % of dollars back into that community.. Wal-mart.. as big as it is.. has a company code and a mandated policy, to state clearly and without reserve, before they move any place.. an agreement and understanding, to recycle a % of their dollars back into the community... and to hire a % from within that community they seek to have a business. on a bigger scale, the Airlines .. if they want to do business in a foreign place.. they have to agree to that government that they will not hire the mass of their people from other localities.. they will hire from that country.. and the push now if among the Latin people.. to get their dollars, because they do not care to purchase from places that do not identify with them unless they have no choice.. they have taken over various communities and whole cities in LA.. and they shop within their community and will drive a great distance to do so.. and if people move into that region and don't hire them.. they will not deal with that business and they may destroy it.. now any business that goes there, if they are bilingual and have some Latin people working in it.. then as with any community.. then they don't care who owns it.. because it represents them, respects them and integrates with them and they are allowed to participate in it as employees.. there are other items as well.. which is funding.. take for instance the Cubans .. and the Vietnamese, there were funding programs established, and training on how and what they need to do.. even the tax concession were awarded... I remember the Cuban I worked with, were given 5 years of no income tax and 3% home loans.. and whtn the Vietnamese regugee came.. the city of Westminister was basically given to them .. and homes built and business loans and the whites in Orange country were outraged.. when they could not get the loans for business and the Vietnamese were opening doughnut shops in their mini malls. some failed miserably because the people would not patronize it, and eventually they found a nich that people would patronize, but it took years.. and then they began to open nail salons... but they had and still have their problems of Asian gangs extorting the families.. of business Vietnamese... and they try to keep the bulk of their revenue within their community and hire their people within their community. I could write on this endless .. as there are so many factors that are real life.. within these scenarios... but .. the understanding of community idioms and related factors can give you a better insight to the points I'm applying emphasis.
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2/23/2008 8:51 pm |
I don't believe I am a racist although I know how to push the right buttons to seem that way. When you understand my family has been treated by Blacks in a way that some would call racists then you would understand why I don't feel comfortable with the overall Black leadership and community. However, I do hold in high regard many Blacks who hold the same views that I do and have reached the same achievement level that I have. In fact, I hold in high regard many Black professors I have met over the years and some of my Black classmates who share my values. When our family first arrived in SF, my father purchased a corner market in a very poor side of town (no wonder it was so cheap) and we had to deal with Black customers who didn't like us. We worked hard and made the business such a success so that my father sold the business a few years later so he could open a restaurant in a better part of town. That restaurant enabled my father to open an import business that was again located in the "wrong" part of San Francisco and soon he was visited by members of the Rainbow Coalition and asked to make a "donation" to the group and hire some of the locals. This amounted to distortion. When my father did not contribute, one of our trucks was burned and part of the warehouse was burned. We also had two of our watch dogs killed. He complained to the mayor (who was black) and was told that he should make the contribution. My father did not and he moved his business out of San Francisco. We are quite successful now and we did this without the help of any government agency. We have over 100 people working in the company in the U.S. However, because of the many mandates created by the government, our labor costs are increasing faster then our ability to expand the business. So a few years ago, my father moved much of the operation overseas and we are now in the process of down sizing our U.S. operations. Now, as to why I don't feel comfortable with Obama it is partly due to his race and partly due to his economic policy. The race issue is because many of the Blacks in the SF area feel that minorities should band together to elect a Black president. I use the term Black because that is what they call him. Now if they could call him an American then I would feel more comfortable with that. However, having dealt with a Black leadership in San Francisco that did not do much for Asians when it came to racial conflict with the Black community then maybe you can understand some of the concerns from some of the Asian business community. Just because Obama is a member of a minority class does not mean he shares our same minority concerns. Now if Colin Powell were running for President I would be willing to participate actively in his campaign. He is a centrist and I know his positions on many issues. Powell is not really a career politician, unlike Obama. So am I a racist. I don't think so. I just have a difference of opinion with the Black leadership when it comes to how they have dealt with our community in the past. As for the White community, we don't have the problem of "owing" them anything. My Opinion VICKY The neighbor I first lived in when I moved to LA had an Asian run market.. and they were well liked and during that time.. many of the lawn services were handled by Japanese.. During the 80's I think the drug epidemic ran people crazy.. and many people just became nuts .. and many areas feel into chaos and massive crime... when I was in LA during the summer.. I did not like it and could not wait to leave... there were areas where Latin did not want the blacks and blacks did not want the Latin... and the Latin gangs were sending out hits on blacks from prison and the retaliatory acts just Continued to escalate.. I watched carefully where I would go.. I don't like crime and avoid it.. but there are many areas that I've gone in when I had no problems from people.. My long time friend , a Japanese man, was renovating homes, he bought houses in watts and Compton, and he at first said he was afraid.. but he went there to work on his homes.. and said.. first the blacks came up and ask him if he had work, when he told them it was a small crew that had been with him and he did not need work.. he said they told him.. they would look out for his house for him.. and he said he never had any problems and they generally came around to joke with his crew.. when there is economic disparity there will be conflicts.. this is what happen in Watts during the 1960's .. the jewish merchants owned all the business and profited off the black neighborhood but would not hire the people from the neighborhood... and that is not what any group will accept.. I've seen Asian vegetable places in black neighborhoods with mexican worker... and eventually the people will stop patronizing it... because all communities like to see money circulate back in their community.. You go to and Irish neighborhood, and open a business the Irish Mafia may visit and ask for protection money, and many other things.. there are Asian neighborhood.. that the Asian gangs come and ask protection money... the neighbor who lived across from me.. moved his business in early 2000 to Orange country... and some of the Asian shop keepers were being followed home and robbed by Asian gangs.. so he sold that business and bought a AmPm conveniences store, and he moved into a gated community.. not far from his home across from me.. he was afraid of being targeted by the Asian gang in a follow home robbery.. You go to New York in parts and want to do construction work.. if you don't pay the mob you will not be doing work in their regions.. A friend of mine who is black had Diesel dump trucks, he could not get listed for hauls, because that was controlled and he had to pay "not the union" but the mob people who threatened his trucks if they saw him hauling anything. remember back in the era of the War of this nation for Independence, the British held one thought across their ranks.. to be mindful that they will have to establish commerce with the local people after the conflict is finished. So any time any people move a business to a single ethnicity area.. they should hire in within that community some of their work force.. the company I worked for.. had a policy.. that was standard.. they had to do 25% of their business with the business in the localized community.. If I wanted to move to Thailand and open a business and hire everyone but Thais.. they'd burn me out in a flash.. not only that, the government would give me a hell of a hard way to go.. If a black business moved into an all Asian neighborhood.. they would not even enter the business to patronize it.. regardless how nicely it may be laid out.. there is protectionism mentalities in the human being.. and there are community guidelines within society... spoken and unspoken.. when the Iranian dominated the service stations in the late 70's and early 80's they hired people within the communities and they did not have major problems.. they had loyal customers.. you can best believe in you moved your business in a all white neighborhood.. and the whites wanted manufacturing jobs and you did not hire any of them.. you'd have problems.. but when you have jobs that the white are not interested in then it's a non issue..because the whites are looking for higher paying jobs with better benefits.. but if the market of jobs tighten up and they want those jobs and you don't hire them ... you will have problems... this may not be a concept that Asian that are from a locality where everyone is Asian of a select cultural norm.. but in the diversity of the United states, the element of it's diversity is in and of itself a matter that the business has to engage diversity.. and even more so if it moves into a area where it is a minority moving into a majority of another ethnicity.. But the person who sold your family the business probably should have explained some of the cultural idioms of living and doing business in america and it's varieties of demographic landscape.. and your experience may have been far different.. this is probably something the Chamber of commerce should take up as a general practice to teach any Immigrating foreigner of how to do business in the enviornment.. but what happens mostly is the seller of the business is more interested in selling the business and gaining a profit than to be concerned about the new owner being brought up to speed of these things .. but that should be something that should be standard practice ... for any foreign person who cares to open business in the US. I asked these kind of question when I was last in Thailand.. because I know such things become a very big issue.. if I care to want a problem free successful business there.. nobody messes with white people no mater where they open a business, because they already understand that the white people set up the system in this country and they know how it works.. and how to enlist wrath on anyone that would tell them anything.. but most whites in many of these areas will hire people from the neighborhood when they hope their business.. even the small stores in the area.. or they find out how can they best work with the people.. which means .. if it's a poor neighborhood, they extend them credit, they make friendly chatter and various things.. because they have many many years of experience of doing business in the many diverse single ethnicity neighborhoods. here in this city.. there's a section that is mostly black that I go to to visit relatives.. and there's a store with Iranians that own it.. they have on some shift a couple of black people who work there, but they joke with the people and the people like joking with them and trying to communicate on how do you say this or that in their language and such things.. and the build a bond. when a business is visited by either a mob, gang or some cultural group it generally becase they have received complaints that they won't hire a certain people... and in this country that's illegal.. to discriminate based on race, ethnicity and such things.. and it does not matter what kind of business it is.. this is the law.. Civil Rights was fought for this reason among others.. and if the people had taken it to the EEOC they levy heavy penalties on business for discriminatory practices.. and they will prosecute and the cost will be high... so this is something that many more of the Immigrants need to truly know when they come to this country with hopes of doing business.. generally the only thing exempt is one person business, and strictly family business where there is no one working there that is not a family member.. No one in other countries nor in this country or communities.. will ever allow any business to move to any locality that does not hire people within and from that community.. the whole premise of cities and community economics.. is their ability to have and to recycle a % of dollars back into that community.. Wal-mart.. as big as it is.. has a company code and a mandated policy, to state clearly and without reserve, before they move any place.. an agreement and understanding, to recycle a % of their dollars back into the community... and to hire a % from within that community they seek to have a business. on a bigger scale, the Airlines .. if they want to do business in a foreign place.. they have to agree to that government that they will not hire the mass of their people from other localities.. they will hire from that country.. and the push now if among the Latin people.. to get their dollars, because they do not care to purchase from places that do not identify with them unless they have no choice.. they have taken over various communities and whole cities in LA.. and they shop within their community and will drive a great distance to do so.. and if people move into that region and don't hire them.. they will not deal with that business and they may destroy it.. now any business that goes there, if they are bilingual and have some Latin people working in it.. then as with any community.. then they don't care who owns it.. because it represents them, respects them and integrates with them and they are allowed to participate in it as employees..
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2/23/2008 6:30 pm |
Vicky: Opinions appreciated and respected. The wonder of this country is we are all free to express them unless you are a "Dixie Chick."  We are all formed by our experiences. The natural course of events. Unfortunately, I think we would all feel slight in one place or another regardless of political affiliation. Believe it or not I too I am a moderate in most of my positions. The exception is I strongly dislike racism and bigotry. I appreciate the fact you do provoke keeping the synapses firing. When you understand my family has been treated by Blacks in a way that some would call racists then you would understand why I don't feel comfortable with the overall Black leadership and community. However, I do hold in high regard many Blacks who hold the same views that I do and have reached the same achievement level that I have. In fact, I hold in high regard many Black professors I have met over the years and some of my Black classmates who share my values. When our family first arrived in SF, my father purchased a corner market in a very poor side of town (no wonder it was so cheap) and we had to deal with Black customers who didn't like us. We worked hard and made the business such a success so that my father sold the business a few years later so he could open a restaurant in a better part of town. That restaurant enabled my father to open an import business that was again located in the "wrong" part of San Francisco and soon he was visited by members of the Rainbow Coalition and asked to make a "donation" to the group and hire some of the locals. This amounted to distortion. When my father did not contribute, one of our trucks was burned and part of the warehouse was burned. We also had two of our watch dogs killed. He complained to the mayor (who was black) and was told that he should make the contribution. My father did not and he moved his business out of San Francisco. We are quite successful now and we did this without the help of any government agency. We have over 100 people working in the company in the U.S. However, because of the many mandates created by the government, our labor costs are increasing faster then our ability to expand the business. So a few years ago, my father moved much of the operation overseas and we are now in the process of down sizing our U.S. operations. Now, as to why I don't feel comfortable with Obama it is partly due to his race and partly due to his economic policy. The race issue is because many of the Blacks in the SF area feel that minorities should band together to elect a Black president. I use the term Black because that is what they call him. Now if they could call him an American then I would feel more comfortable with that. However, having dealt with a Black leadership in San Francisco that did not do much for Asians when it came to racial conflict with the Black community then maybe you can understand some of the concerns from some of the Asian business community. Just because Obama is a member of a minority class does not mean he shares our same minority concerns. Now if Colin Powell were running for President I would be willing to participate actively in his campaign. He is a centrist and I know his positions on many issues. Powell is not really a career politician, unlike Obama. So am I a racist. I don't think so. I just have a difference of opinion with the Black leadership when it comes to how they have dealt with our community in the past. As for the White community, we don't have the problem of "owing" them anything. My Opinion VICKY
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2/23/2008 5:59 pm |
enjoy yourself..  you made a statement .. that was erronous.. it is evidently a commonality for you to do so, with intent of your disdain..I addressed it and now you want to debate .. the cost of a plate. maybe you may care to re read your writing, you addressed a $50 situation vs a 500$ situation .. and your claim was the $500 payment would get the person a seat in the back of the room, because of their heritage... but you've continued on now to address the exacting cost of attendance, what ever it is, and matters little to me if it's 50 cent or a quarter.. I addressed your point of inference of BIAS and prejudicially related commentary... and now you are caught up in a cycle of semantics. the original point was .. the bias.. comment... you made.. you are really a person who has a very nasty disposition of contemptuous hatred... and you seem to delight in making slanderous implications, and pseudo defamatory utterances... you may care to think about your self defeating premises .. you say it's this ,then it's not, then it is, then it's not.. it may be good to first think it through... I'll let your sort it for yourself as to how you care to see it... bottom line for me .. is people buy a plate or a table of plates.. they go .. or they don't go... but to claim they are treated different because of their heritage.. I don't agree. in case you got lost in the commentary.. that's the point that became the element of discussion.. based on your comment...
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2/23/2008 5:02 pm |
When I was in Graduate School, my field of study was Physics/Biochemistry. I needed to master both field to be able to create the tools I need to do cancer research. I also needed to understand the physics of the materials I am working with. In order to broaden my personal world, my professors suggested I indulge freely in courses outside my majors fields. Graduate seminars are unlike undergraduate classes. We met once a week, required to read up to five books or papers before class, and had to be prepared to argue either side of the topics the professor brought up. There was never really a right or wrong answer, just a matter of perspective. We had great conversations. One of my professors used to post here. Graduate school provided me with the desire to learn from others through vigorous conversation on many issues. I have my own strong points of view, conservative in fiscal manners and centrist in social issues. Many of my friends tended to be liberal in many of their ideas but in the few years they have been on the outside working, their view have become more moderate and somewhat conservative when it comes to fiscal and social issues. I don't intend to censor anyone posting in my blog; however, I do ask that you exchange ideas and supportive points of view. I've added anecdotal experiences to support my feelings about why I feel uncomfortable with the Obama campaign at this time. I've been at several of his fund raising and "know the candidate" events and I've come away disappointed, not by him personally, but by the people who have surrounded him. I know these underlings probably don't represent who he is but I'm afraid that if he is elected some of these same obnoxious people could be in positions of responsibility that would impact my pocketbook and force me to participate in social issues I don't believe in. My opinion VICKY
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2/23/2008 1:08 pm |
The items of concern to me are the following: Taxes: In a few years, I'll be in the top 10% of wage earners in the U.S. His tax policy punishes me by raising my tax rate paid to different government bodies to around 70%. Jobs Creation: He will punish companies who move their operations overseas to avoid the high labor costs in the U.S. What kind of jobs will he create and how will he finance it? By raising taxes on successful companies. Our family business cannot survive in the USA because of unnecessary business expenses forced upon us to solve social issues not of our making. Foreign Policy: It's a good idea to talk to our enemies but not so good a policy to give them political standing that recognizes their right to destroy the United States. Labor Relations: He has captured the support of three major labor unions that have a history of driving up labor costs and in the case of one union protects illegals in the U.S. Health Policy: Why should a business be responsible for paying an individual’s family medical needs? We are forced to set up group health insurance plans and to subsidize it up to 90% to make it affordable. That takes away from our profits and our ability to expand our business. Living Wage Proposal: Some jobs are not meant to support a couple with children. They are entry-level jobs but his proposals include making companies responsible for paying more for work then it is worth. If a person wants to make a living wage then they should have the education to be able to be software engineers, technicians, instead of burger flippers or grocery bag boys. So instead of being so smug, why don't you tell me why you like Obama? money gains nothing standing still.. money,being what it is, forces itself to continue this motion of cycle.. otherwise it looses it's core value by erosion of value due to inflation, along with the loss of it's potential opportunity gains. this is why high earners.. continue to own and, invest to own property, stocks, and various other extensions unto their enterprises.. they modernize to increase their profit margins, the have a continual capital investment set aside for the purpose of remaining competetive and increasing its yield..
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2/23/2008 12:56 pm |
Nik: It's revealing you continually use the world "groups." And I don't recall saying all races are beautiful. The thrust of my comments don't reflect an opinion of "groups" at all, but rather basing my judgments on the individual. I prefer looking at the positive qualities people possess. If you want to focus on the negatives they might be found and are found among any people and/or race. But, they are equally balanced by he good. And my realities are based on living in NYC for twenty years of my adult life, traveling/working around the world on each and every continent. I lived in NW Washington D.C. at the time M L King was assassinated. I was stoned during those riots. But, a number of years later I was closely working with SNCC (as a Vietnam veteran)protesting the war. Working with Presidents (both Republican and Democratic), General, Princes, Princesses and common laborers. Serving as a combat medic in Vietnam and treating the injuries of ALL people so affected. Working with Halo Trust demining in Cambodia, Bosnia and Angola. Living and working with fishing families in Japan. Those experiences have shown me, regardless of where you are in the world, there is an inherent decency within all "groups" of people if one is given the opportunity to know them being rich or poor. I refuse to see people as "groups," as I will not succumb to a cynicism and labeling so often seen in life. I will not live my life focusing on the negative of those so called "groups." Sadly, too many do. I'd suggest you never dare me to anything because I've seen and lived a reality well beyond your scope of imagining. By the way I do dare. I dare to be myself. Hope in this world is our best shot. best...
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2/23/2008 12:47 pm |
Ok.. call it buying a plate if that's suits well.. buying a plate.. which is placed upon a table.. is the point of buying the table where the plates are placed.... based on the number of plate setting which make up the table.. based on how many the table can accommodate.. therefore if a group choose to buy 10 plates, and ask, or request that those ten plates are shared at a particular table.. then... that is the buying of a table.. which each member thus.. has a plate.. then the price of the table is irrelevant anyway. you made that relevant in your comment, by implying and STATING, that one would be thrust to the back of the room, based on their heritage.. as a discriminatory reference.. now you say.. people want the back tables .. so they can mingle with the candidate.. so if that is true.. then if one is thrust to the back of the room.. they would then get the "prime" tables to mingle with the candidate... so being given a table in the back.. would then.. not be a bad things.. but a good thing... based on your Now premise... so how could it be or have been discriminatory based on heritage.. if as you Now say, that is the prime place to be to mingle with the candidate. so .. I'd think the most suitable things is.. buy a pate if one wants to go, and if they want to have a table, buy enough places that make up the amount a table would hold.. and share the table.. and if price is no object.. then one singularly may pay for the table or, each may pay for the table.. as a group... coalition, special interest group or PAC group or what ever the nature of the group may be .. it may even be many individuals that share a table who've never seen each other in life.. but they share a table, as each bought a plate.. and they came ... because they cared to support the candidate.. or view the proceedings. .. and each attendee choose to gather at this location for the event.
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2/23/2008 12:34 pm |
many many people have raised many successful offspring's from project facilities, back woods country homes, deep ghettos, and ghettos from foreign lands, rice fields and other farm communities from foreign lands, and mud and tin shack living environments... both from in and out of this country.. and in all these environments it's always a matter of understanding the cultural norms within that enviornment, the idiosyncrasies of the blends and, mixes within those environments.. there is violence in all places.. and some areas of all ethnicities of people and, in all countries. they all have violence standing guard at various community gates.. and once one establishes their reasoning in disposition for being there, those gates open.. this is a process that is engaged in many places, until there is Political unrest, then the acts follows of power seekers to assimilate people by instigations and subjugations.. to do the same things that happen in Bosnia and, among the Serbs, and in Rwanda, .. it is what happened in the many ages of the conquering tribes of past time China, Japan and every other nation... the same was recently true in Kenya, as long as there was not political unrest of party power actions, to take over the government by a particular group.. those peoples lives mixed within their lives and communities of many cultural blends.. the same was true in the other places of Bosnia, and among the area of the Serbs, ... Political ideologies are one matter but, political dominance becomes another matter.. when it creates unrest by the revolt and intent to usurp the government that functions for all. that's why when the power of the Presidency if Republican we still have a mix of democratic congress, it may be strong on republican rule or strong on democratic rule, but each still have voice. This US.. survive such things because it has it's congress that is divided into two power groups that both hold one thing in common.. that's the want and will to be a democracy and to stay united by the majority rule principal which denotes a Democracy. ... without that.. we will disengage into anarchy of ideology as well as the same with ethnic and cultural divides that will become warring factions.. and thus no longer will a democracy exist. aside from that, there is totalitarianism, Astrocracy, and dictators of ever sort... Democracy working is seen in, the microcosms of communities, which exemplify this with the variety of race and hate based division, economic prominent and poor.. whom would otherwise clash in the streets with total chaos of anarchic activity... but by the enforcement of laws that govern a democracy.. we survive.. and the fears of justice ruling and the respect of it's rule .. keeps people from unjustly encroaching upon others.. and what is done is done by the majority rule.. through our voting .. and we select our candidates thru a process .. of which they campaign and gather their following.. by inspiring a following.. thru the campaign process.
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2/23/2008 10:54 am |
Vicky: I challenge you to read the following position paper/speech given at the University of Chicago in April, 2007. http://asiafriendfinder.com Read it and tell me Obama is nothing more than what you present as being: "Like the Pied Piper of Hamelin, Senator Obama is capturing many American voters by constantly repeating his three sweet but undefined notes, "Change, hope, and future." I asked myself, how could so many people be led along by a politician who is saying nothing?" Have you read a more thoughtful presentation in the intervening months? I am not saying one has to agree with his position, but can you say the man is as vacuous as you imply? Those who support him are thoughtless lemmings? Or do your commments/attitudes come soley from your own ignorance, bias? Taxes: In a few years, I'll be in the top 10% of wage earners in the U.S. His tax policy punishes me by raising my tax rate paid to different government bodies to around 70%. Jobs Creation: He will punish companies who move their operations overseas to avoid the high labor costs in the U.S. What kind of jobs will he create and how will he finance it? By raising taxes on successful companies. Our family business cannot survive in the USA because of unnecessary business expenses forced upon us to solve social issues not of our making. Foreign Policy: It's a good idea to talk to our enemies but not so good a policy to give them political standing that recognizes their right to destroy the United States. Labor Relations: He has captured the support of three major labor unions that have a history of driving up labor costs and in the case of one union protects illegals in the U.S. Health Policy: Why should a business be responsible for paying an individual’s family medical needs? We are forced to set up group health insurance plans and to subsidize it up to 90% to make it affordable. That takes away from our profits and our ability to expand our business. Living Wage Proposal: Some jobs are not meant to support a couple with children. They are entry-level jobs but his proposals include making companies responsible for paying more for work then it is worth. If a person wants to make a living wage then they should have the education to be able to be software engineers, technicians, instead of burger flippers or grocery bag boys. So instead of being so smug, why don't you tell me why you like Obama?
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