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touch213 70M
6990 posts
2/20/2008 6:14 pm
how to know a leader


the other candidate.. can't even address their issues for trying to slam Obama.. they can't deliver a message beyond trying to make one as a put down to him , his style..

now just when did eloquence become a negative things, some and many and most are applauded for being such, and some struggle to become such.. the only Republican who is not Obama bashing and driven by a slap at Obama is Huckabee,

but truth being told, there are so many people now seeing the same truths I said about McCaine earlier.. is that he is a remake of the Bush program, and he has yesterdays thinking, and they showed a picture of him standing to GB 1st, I almost could not tell who was older.. they both seem robotic..

It's quite interesting that people have suddenly claimed that dynamic speaking as being a negative, and talking about hope and reaching into tomorrow is considered naive... But McCain and Hillary has turned from saying what they can do and how they will do it.. to say.. more of how Obama can't do it.. so.. that is actually an asertion of the leadership ability of Obama and their feeling of threat at his ability to grasp the publics attention.

but McCain's biggest supporters are over 65 based on reported stats, he does not have young people on the stage nor around it, he is too much groomed in the support of war mentality and the claim that America has to have war motives to stand.. I don't see China nor Japan with war motives and they seem to be standing very well. Now China has a big army and war machine, maybe one of the largest in the world but, it is not threatening anyone with it..

But .. I don't get the people that are supporting another version of GB in the McCaine model of his program and agenda.. with him, it's the politics as usual.. and the old man bristle up against challenges rather than "sit yo a*s down and talk it thru" .. I think this country is broke enough and in enough debt and international insult that we don't need any more.. of this same mindset with a different slant to it.. we are at a point in the world stage that we have to be team players, build team work and develop cooperative agreements with places that the current administration don't even listen to their issues or their proposals .. and shut down when they don't take the dictations.. but the success factor is .. working with people, and let them work within their own organizational structure of their country to help promote progress and changes..

we can't go buying out way into other countries trying to buy change, within them.. they have to want to change because they see it in their best interest.. so we don't need another headbanger president.. that's for certain..

I give GB credit, he has done the best he could to fight terrorist, and that's a commendable thing, but the Iraq is a mistake in that process, but some other aspect of his fight on terror have been progressive.. but that matter now.. should be engaged and addressed by a collective of nations, and the collective of nations need to spend their own money to support the fight on terror, and those sitting on their thumbs need to get off their butt and contribute to the eradication of terror and building better networks to curtail it.. instead of sitting back collecting money, waiting on the US to take the heat to keept their back covered.. while they play like little gather up sea shell in the symbol of dollars.,.

nope the other need to step up to the table.. and as for China and Japan, they need to start contributing to the world community to support others..and help build up other, they make enough money off of everyone they should feel compelled to up their contribution to work programs..

but .. either way.. it's pathetic to see these candidates running a campaign of attack the leader .. rather than stand on your issue, because if your issue was that good and you conveyed it well, you'd be the leader.. truth is it's own resolve.. and no matter how it's fought, it reigns as truth.. truth is .. the People engage the platform that Obama has put forth.. the numbers of the individuals tell what is truth.. in their actions.

the same public has heard all the other's and they made their choice in their vote.. now what ever it comes down to in the end result.. this country will surely have come to learn a lot about the political arena and it's machine working.. and maybe not just Americans but the world may come to be more politically astute.. when this things is said and done..

We learned a terrible lessor in the first election of GB.. with the "hanging chad" and the Floridian debacle, and here in the Primary, Florida and Michigan.. which is really one in the same.. has again made a butt out of themselves in the primary, till their delegates don't even count.

so... it's a matter of listen follow the issues and cast your vote ...

victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

2/20/2008 7:29 pm

all i hearing is talk from obama so i guessing talking is free so that is supposed to making me wanting to voting for him?

or is this another one of those issues is supposed to make the asians feeling bad cause black man is slave before in the usa so the asians is owing to the blacks that they should be voting for the obama cause the blacks doing all the hard work for the civil rights and all that other stuff?

hmmmmm

just gonna listen until i hear something worth paying attention to but so far all i hearing is sound bites.

too bad not have more then the two parties in the usa now.

is just my opinion, not a cheap shot.

VICKY


touch213 70M

2/21/2008 6:53 am

    Quoting victorylee0516:
    all i hearing is talk from obama so i guessing talking is free so that is supposed to making me wanting to voting for him?

    or is this another one of those issues is supposed to make the asians feeling bad cause black man is slave before in the usa so the asians is owing to the blacks that they should be voting for the obama cause the blacks doing all the hard work for the civil rights and all that other stuff?

    hmmmmm

    just gonna listen until i hear something worth paying attention to but so far all i hearing is sound bites.

    too bad not have more then the two parties in the usa now.

    is just my opinion, not a cheap shot.

    VICKY
Goan seems to have grasp the meaning of the post.. perfectly..

if you have racial issues, it's certain nothing in this post referred to anything of their ethnic make up. each candidate has spoke about experience... if I recall, two of them speak about not much beyond their experience.. they are basically running a campaign on past experience.. and attack at the eloquence of his delivery, and his ability to inspire hope and address change and the need for change.

addressing that point of candidacy, has nothing remotely racial in it, nor did it seek any pity from Asian because of slavery in this nation..

this mans father was not a slave and he did not come from a descendant of slaves.. maybe you may care to refer to his Bio if you want clarification of his heritage.


touch213 70M

2/21/2008 6:57 am

    Quoting  :

re read the post if you missed the gist of it.. but, thank you for displaying your racial concerns in the matter.. which nothing about the post was stated in, nor referred to a racial category nor, depiction of anything race based.. but your stand is acknowledged.


touch213 70M

2/21/2008 6:59 am

    Quoting  :

Thank you, Goan.. it's appreciated when someone gets the point in the discussion.


touch213 70M

2/21/2008 7:00 am

    Quoting  :

He's saying something that people want to hear.. because he's still in it, where many other's have left.. and he continues to get votes..


touch213 70M

2/21/2008 7:22 am

this is all any of the candidates can do at this stage is talk... that's the whole point and structure of the running for this position.. "TO DELIVER THEIR MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC" about what they can do and what they want to do, and what they will make their best efforts to get done.. and the whole point is to inspire a following for their program and plan of address unto the issues and the progress that a nation seeks a leader to do.

but there's a matters of interest within this .. it takes good planning, building a good team and, having a team based managment model that can get this done successfully... and many may not like it .. but he has put together a team that delivers and he delivers so well the message, that others, can mainly attack his delivery.. rather than address their programs..

I guess the ability to build a functioning program is not even counted.. but it sure does seem to be a big matter of challenge for some to do so, of those who are replacing their advisor's, and remaking their team, and having problems with belief in their candidate.. in most anything of large scale success .. is successful by and thru the ability to build a good team, keep them inspired and to inspire the people to believe and have hope and want change... and to work with the program and support it.. it seems to be a very good example of successful leadership ability.. Obama has displayed in doing so.

and not one thing in that ability has been race based.. and it has not chased down any intent to say or imply some I was a slave vote for me..

but the bottom line in the post said what ??

so... it's a matter of listen follow the issues and cast your vote ...


touch213 70M

2/21/2008 7:49 am

    Quoting  :

from what you are saying and how you say it.. it certainly comes across like their isas much of what you claim of hate.. coming from the Asian voice toward black and people of darker skin. and that certainly is no way to bridge any gap nor mend any fences.. I don't think Al Sharpton and J. Jackson are either, running for any office.. but .. no one has ever said there could not be, nor has anyone stopped any Asian from supporting any Asian to be a spokes person for Asian concerns and to seek voice, and platform to speak.. nor stand up and address Asian concerns of civil right or any other rights.. Asian choose by their own actions or non actions, to not have a national figure to address their concerns... but what does that take.. that simply takes Asians to stand behind an Asian to Address their concern on a national platform.. Far as it stand for Sharpton and Jackson.. they created and become a part of organizations.. and became the spokes person for those organizations and thru doing such those organization gained members.. now why don't the Asian join those organization or create one and support it and a spokes person to speak on a national level..

but if you want the truth.. it's simple..that attitude of.. "I'm not getting involved attitude, that we are too small in numbers attitude, and that blacks hate us attitude, even that attitude, of " we are too many different Asian and not supporting each other".. all self defeating rhetoric.. now who's problem is that and why are they creating it by excuses.. "
Civil right is a Federal matter covered under Federal law, and that means anyone, and group can have organization to improve what they feel is civil rights issues.

now as long as Asian continue with this, I'm not getting involved attitude, that's how long they will be with the same complaints.. who's fault is it that Asian groups don't build coalitions with other groups.. because Asian don't want to work with black.. and in many cases it's the same Attitude they hold in Asian countries, they don't like dark skin they don't even like dark skinned Asian.. so they are the carriers of this skin based prejudgment dispositions. and living in America they can't let go of it, and surely many will claim.. Oh' It's our tradition not to like dark skinned people even if they are asian and people even darker we Asian like them even less.

Civil Right marches of the 1960's was for everyone, and many Whites of many White cultural make up joined in that support .. but Asian wanted to stand on the side and claim they were fighting their own battle..

civil right violation is a civil right violation, Period !! but Asian stand on the side talking about.. Oh.. our issues are so much different from everyone else.. either you are violated or you are not, and if it's a violation of Civil Rights as a principal.. then that principal applies to all. but until people get rid of their .. we don't like dark skin.. this problem will continue to be a problem that Asian continue to create of not joining in program that fight for the rights of all people equally. but all this talk .. yet.. among the Asian population, they won't even make the efforts to build unifying coalitions with all Asian... they rather sit back and claim one group of Asian is better than another group... and then claim everyone is against them.. but still they don't try to build unity nor seek to consolidate and unify with other organizations.

America is about.. people building unity thru cooperative engagment.. it's been that since this nation began of that pursuit.. there's still much work to do but by organization building and platforms of address .. the process continues.. Asian simply have to join in and they won't complain about their numbers being too small. they would have coalition volumes that identify common issues of principal based concerns and that is " civil rights violations of the principal of discrimination.... as a principal concern and address..