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rsflener 61M
90 posts
1/5/2008 12:33 pm
The World Votes 2008

Here is a chance for everyone on AFF, American or not, to vote on the next US President. They are arranged by the top three winners from each party in Iowa and grouped in their own party, starting with Democrats and ending with Republicans.
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Mike Huckabee
Mitt Romney
John McCain


"Lead, Follow, or Stay Out of the Way"


lasearching4asia 67M

1/11/2008 2:49 pm

I don't get it! When viewing your blog on this subject it was also view 625 times previously, but only 36 votes. Is it possible we all have looked at this an average of 18 times a piece? Is it also possible people just don't care to even vote yet it's just a click away? Personally it is my third time which leaves even more for other voters and non voters.


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
41F

1/11/2008 11:10 am

    Quoting  :

28 Years is long time.

VP George H. Bush, 1981-1989 = 8
P George H. Bush, 1989-1973 = 4
P William J. Clinton, 1973-2001 = 8
P George W. Bush, 2001-2009 = 8
28 years!
Then add Hillary Clinton = 8

WOW!!!! 36 years.

I just thinking, you know This family is in power longer then I am living. Then I going into middle age by time Hillary is finish. What next? Their daughters gonna run for President? Is gonna be Chelsea vs. Jenna or Barbara. Ooops, they cannot run cause they need to be over age 35. So maybe one of the Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Careter, Regan kids gonna run?


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
41F

1/10/2008 10:55 pm

    Quoting mishmash:
    As I commented on one of the magazine articals before coming here I think Obama would be a good choice. He does have a problem with winning over black america as, and I'm sure through no fault of his won, most of his voters are white, middle class and just a bit too happy for my liking.
    If he got himself out there and did the one thing that they are waiting for but he is steering clear from and that is addressing the inequality within the american social/economic system I think that he would find more votes coming his way.

    He has been wary of mentioning black america as he wants to win without, some might say; pulling the ethnic strings however it may be hard to avoid. His face alone represents the very people who are not convinced he will make a difference to their lives. He needs to swallow that pride and get out there amongst the people who could really turn this for him. If not Hilary will be sitting pretty in the seat saying 'I told you so'
Is most interesting don't you think that old line Black leadership is stay with Clinton? Obama don't need that self-appointed leadership to win the Black vote and that is why he has not played the "race" card. I think Black people will come to his aid in the final voting. That is most dangerous to the established Black leadership base because if he can win without their support then Obama does not owe them anything at all.


mishmash
(Ness )
50F

1/9/2008 9:03 am

As I commented on one of the magazine articals before coming here I think Obama would be a good choice. He does have a problem with winning over black america as, and I'm sure through no fault of his won, most of his voters are white, middle class and just a bit too happy for my liking.
If he got himself out there and did the one thing that they are waiting for but he is steering clear from and that is addressing the inequality within the american social/economic system I think that he would find more votes coming his way.

He has been wary of mentioning black america as he wants to win without, some might say; pulling the ethnic strings however it may be hard to avoid. His face alone represents the very people who are not convinced he will make a difference to their lives. He needs to swallow that pride and get out there amongst the people who could really turn this for him. If not Hilary will be sitting pretty in the seat saying 'I told you so'


jennipher
(Jennipher Yoon)
45F

1/7/2008 7:29 am

    Quoting victorylee0516:
    I not understanding why people wants voting for Hiliary Clinton just cause she is woman. What does that mean? Also they say she has experience cause her husband is President. Does that meaning also that she has experience giving the oral s*e*x because her husband liking that from interns she going to giving that to her interns? Oh, what a story that gonna be.

    Why say Obama cause he is black man and white man all roll into one person? Is that reason for changing? Ok, we give him chance to make the change. What kinda changeing he gonna be making? He saying one thing but he gonna be doing the same thing before cause he is in Democrat party and they wanna take away from hard working people and giving to lazy non-working people.

    John Edwards remind me like someone say before a used car salesman. You think you can trust someone like him? Maybe his accent make me think of slicky man trying to take my money away. Maybe because he is lawyer not make me too comfortable.

    Huckabee is maybe too Christian for me or too religous man. Ok to me if he wanna be religious man but why he have to make it part of his public person? Believe God or not believe God is private thing, right? And worse people in political power is religious people, right? I thinking history is full of religious wars cause by religous leaders with the difference of opinion over which God is better.

    Romeny is not really truthful man from my understanding from reading about him and now all the things he says there is opposite citings saying he not really do what he say or cannot do what he promise. He one rich man who wanna be president and willing to buy the votes for that but I don't think he has enough money to buy election now since everyone feel their vote is more important to throw away for lost cause.

    McCain is good possibility cause he perhaps is the maverick who not quite Republican except for running for Senate office and is not Democrat in lots of things. Too bad we not have 3 or 4 political parties cause then we can really have choice. Maybe McCain could be centrist moderate independent candidate for us peoples who not liking what the political parties want to giving us to voting for in November.

    Anyways only my opinion and I only hear trying to practice writing english wihtout using my dictionary and grammar checker.

    Thank you let me express my long opinion.

Your English is perfect!
Thanks for your refreshing contribution.


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
41F

1/7/2008 2:09 am

I not understanding why people wants voting for Hiliary Clinton just cause she is woman. What does that mean? Also they say she has experience cause her husband is President. Does that meaning also that she has experience giving the oral s*e*x because her husband liking that from interns she going to giving that to her interns? Oh, what a story that gonna be.

Why say Obama cause he is black man and white man all roll into one person? Is that reason for changing? Ok, we give him chance to make the change. What kinda changeing he gonna be making? He saying one thing but he gonna be doing the same thing before cause he is in Democrat party and they wanna take away from hard working people and giving to lazy non-working people.

John Edwards remind me like someone say before a used car salesman. You think you can trust someone like him? Maybe his accent make me think of slicky man trying to take my money away. Maybe because he is lawyer not make me too comfortable.

Huckabee is maybe too Christian for me or too religous man. Ok to me if he wanna be religious man but why he have to make it part of his public person? Believe God or not believe God is private thing, right? And worse people in political power is religious people, right? I thinking history is full of religious wars cause by religous leaders with the difference of opinion over which God is better.

Romeny is not really truthful man from my understanding from reading about him and now all the things he says there is opposite citings saying he not really do what he say or cannot do what he promise. He one rich man who wanna be president and willing to buy the votes for that but I don't think he has enough money to buy election now since everyone feel their vote is more important to throw away for lost cause.

McCain is good possibility cause he perhaps is the maverick who not quite Republican except for running for Senate office and is not Democrat in lots of things. Too bad we not have 3 or 4 political parties cause then we can really have choice. Maybe McCain could be centrist moderate independent candidate for us peoples who not liking what the political parties want to giving us to voting for in November.

Anyways only my opinion and I only hear trying to practice writing english wihtout using my dictionary and grammar checker.

Thank you let me express my long opinion.


rsflener replies on 3/12/2008 6:04 am:
I think about it the same way you have expressed. I think McCain has much more experience and he has showed he will go against the party line when he feels it is right.

touch213 69M

1/6/2008 3:16 pm

I think Obama becase he is about change.. and he is not some rich person who is not aware of what is life challenges. and he is not out to make contempt with the middle east but to talk with people from all places.

we can no longer be a nation that stomps about trying to force the world regions to change faster than they can change.

I personally think if the US had really taken time to understand what Saddam was dealigh with of the factions that were continually trying to overthow him they may understand his strong arm brutality tactics more.. I'm not saying it was right.. I'm saying if we look at the situation now.. that should give us some indication of what kind of factions that Saddam was fighting on a daily bais.. but in ways he was slowly trying to develop Iraq.. the same as the Shah of Iraq qas doing back before Kohemeni .. and many others... I think the US did not work with him beyond using him.. becase when they were working with him he was working with them.. and the US and the rest of the world gave a blind eye to the gassing of the Kurds.. but now they see that was near the region of the Taliban and the other factions that have been breeding in that region for many years... the US did not stop to think about that stuff.. they were looking at the Oil.. and thinking after they rescued Kuwait that the Arabs would just let them take over Iraq.. and manage it's oil.. but they never thought the Arabs would use the US to remove Saddam becase he would not go for their policies of trying to dominate the world with their radical motives. If people payed attention to the dignity of Saddam during that trial they may have learned something about the man..

but I think Obama is someone that has seen enough diversity in the cultures of life to know that we all have many struggles and it takes a lot for all of us to work together.. and he understand the needs of this nation to heal itself and rebuild itself and not turn it's back on the world in the process. He has never backed off his disdain for the some of the stuff the GBush has done..and he was not a supporter of it when it started. WE are so far behind in Arab relationshs since the removal of Saddam that they just don't want to admit it.. but if the US had understood the radical factions of the region they would have known better how to work with Saddam.. and reel in his cronies and sons and put them on a track that had some other progressive factions.. but the world has to remember for nearly 10 years they did not let the man sell his oil to prosper his country.. and tied his hands in many ways... which made him have to fight with his people in ways that maybe he would not have had to fight if he had the resources to address their concerns.

but some of the other canidate have very good points.. I think.. the economic administration of the nation would do good with Romney working within an Obama administration with, Huckabee working on federal tax reforms, Hillary working on social program, health care and schools and Edwards as Attorney General.. McCaine working on Military reform..and vetrans rights and international military coordinations.
Richardson working on south american relations and the American Hemisphere unity and Guiliana working with the nation of governors for State unity and reforms in our interstate reforms that are sorely needed.

now if that came out as a Cabinet line up for Obama.. that would be great.. maybe as a headline ticket of Obama/Huckabee and etc.. that would be a ticket that would meld the parties and make things prosper with bi partisan unity.


jennipher
(Jennipher Yoon)
45F

1/6/2008 12:16 pm

In another post i voted for Hillary. I stick with her.


lasearching4asia 67M

1/6/2008 11:54 am

    Quoting sevenofmine:
    in germany its angela, first time in history a lady.
    why not black man in us.
    it would be great and its time for changes
Well the Man is Black only by Genes if it's all about race. He met his father once when his father return from Africa at the age of 10. From his memoir he described his early childhood "That my father looked nothing like the people around me-that he black pitch, my mother white as milk-barely registered in my mind"The book describes his struggles as a young adult to reconcile social perceptions of his multiracial heritage. He wrote he used alcohol, marijuana,and cocaine during his teen years to " push questions of who I was out of my mind".He spent grades 6-10 in Jakarta where classes were taught in Indonesian language,which he still speaks.He then return to live with his maternal white grandparents until he graduated from high school in Hawaii.He was educated in Muslim and Christian schools.Moved to LA to start his college and the rest History.

So if your going to vote because of his race you may want to pick another candidate. If you want to vote because he best represents the struggles of your past and your idea of now and the future YOU HAVE THE RIGHT MAN.


sevenofmine
(John )
60M
1 post
1/5/2008 5:05 pm

in germany its angela, first time in history a lady.
why not black man in us.
it would be great and its time for changes