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davinci2rinpoche 63M
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7/29/2007 8:50 am

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Seksual and Emotional Arousal

A topic I've been thinking about for a long time, and I decided to write this post when I read SEXIEST(Good Girl, Gone Bad). If by chance my picture is not censored, Brazil's Beach Volley female team, Beach Volley World Championship, Gstaad, Switzerland, July 2007.

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When you watch men sports on TV -- on the track, tennis, beach volley, etc. -- you CAN concentrate on sport, and appreciate athletic performances. When you watch the same sports practised by women, first you wonder at the women's nakedness and seksiness, and only then you can watch what they do. How is it that women show themselves as naked as possible, while so often blaming men for being swine with only seks on their minds? --

Men wear sport outfits, but their shorts are never shorter than what is required to practise their sport in the best conditions -- be it on the track, in tennis or in team games. As to women, they always wear the smallest and seksiest possible pieces of clothes. In the latest Beach Volley World Championship in Gstaad, Switzerland, they were almost naked... It is as if women were always trying to be seksy whatever they are doing: not only when doing sports, but also when shopping or simply walking in the streets. In western cities, they always dress so as to attract men's attention and desire.

This attitude is causing the loss of real seksiness. We, men, have become so used to seeing half-naked women everywhere that we do not react any more. Know why? Simply because a man can't feel continually seksually aroused. If he were, a man would be unable to focus on his work, and do what he has to do. So in the end, men pass by these women without even noticing them...

As all women seem to show themselves seksually available (which they are not, of course, but women should know that is the impression a man gets when he sees them half naked), men have to use other criteria than seksiness to choose their women. Seksual arousal is not a big deal any more, now men long for emotional arousal.

To get emotionally aroused, we need positive emotions, and they are difficult to create. It takes sensitivity, sensibility, imagination and self-control -- it is not enough for a woman to swing a lovely butt under men's eyes. Such women will be taken for sure, but if they've got nothing else they will be let down, too.

Finally, seeing all that female skin all the time is a real good thing. It teaches men to concentrate on what is really rare and hard to get: a woman not only with a body, but also with brains...




davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
7/29/2007 8:55 am

VERY FUNNY! Right after writing this post I chanced on an interesting French statistic.

You know (or don't know) that on our European beaches, women can sunbathe or swim with their breasts naked. They don't have to wear a top to hide their breasts.
-- What percentage of Frenchmen do you think object to their wives' or girlfriends' showing their breasts naked on beaches or at the swimming-pool?
-- ONLY 20% !!! 4 Frenchmen out of 5 think it is just normal for their own women to show their breasts if they want.

Which is proof enough that, here in Europe, nakedness (or seksiness) is not considered a big issue any more... I wonder how many Chinese women would like to show their breasts to everybody on the beach, and how many Chinese men would allow their wives/girl-friends to do so...


mydogateit
(Deb )
50F
1846 posts
7/29/2007 11:59 am

Good entry. I think to make things more fair then, we need many more scantily clad men running around, lol! And you think women don't look at men who play sports? Ha, my best friend only watches football to see the guys bend over, lol! And I think many hockey players are cute.


Jalo05
(Lani Jaloux America)
47F

7/29/2007 7:19 pm

I'll give my comment later.

I have to see to it I pass the test this week

It's going to be different comment but related.

Simply J


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
7/30/2007 11:27 pm

"... more scantily clad men" (or women), Pup. But where would the pleasure of discovery be then? When you see everything without an effort, you do not appreciate it at its real value...


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
7/30/2007 11:28 pm

Glad to see an Apostle here. Welcome to agree or disagree...


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
7/30/2007 11:30 pm

Oh, Jalo, you've made a wise decision: take your test first and if you pass -- as I am sure you will --, you'll have even better ideas to offer...


etch_a_sketch 38M
21 posts
7/31/2007 6:14 am

Men and women are both shallow beings and we like to see things that attract us at first glance and enjoy watching something that would relate to what our brains favor. I enjoy watching female tennis players in mini skirts and always hoping to catch their upskirt scenes. Very bad of me but I am telling the truth.


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
7/31/2007 10:24 am

Oh sure, Sketch, who would not do it? But it does not make you randy, does it? It's just for fun.

If we want to go "deeper" (no pun intended), shallowness won't make it...


GoldmanHuangShan 60M

8/2/2007 7:56 pm

DVD....pulp's right....many women i knew a little better..told me how they imagine groping those men who wear too tight...ouch!!! sensitive buttons....

But about men watch women.....well...you got a point that they dont wear for sports but to distract...

I think chinese women in south china dont have enough assets to distract...... but in Beijing...they seem to compete showing cleverages in the most sophisticated way..... .... well at least in the Univ...

About being naked....not yet but there have been several controversies about how those in fine arts display their bodies etc etc.

Isnt it an irony that we were bare thousands years ago and now learning to bare again? During the hippy days....there were slogan that suggested burn the bra.....


GoldmanHuangShan 60M

8/2/2007 11:26 pm

How about making skimpy translucent materials for beach and pool wear.


oasispdc
(oasispdc )
38M

8/4/2007 5:17 am

Too unfair, indeed. Male colleagues and I had to wear a tie, shirt, shoe leather, and other very tight clothes even in such hot weather, while female colleagues can wear sleeveless shirt, short skirt, sandal and so on. In a word, women can wear much less than men.
By the way, why do people have to wear clothes?

Please don't disturb a chicken before he hatches.


Jalo05
(Lani Jaloux America)
47F

8/4/2007 6:42 am

I'm back and passed the exam

Now where should I start? It seems I am too late to give my nonsense comments coz there's a new blog above this.

Men when they see women almost half naked, they lose interest or the urge for seks. That'S because they either show them off for everyone to see or maybe they really are not used to wearing a lot.

In the Middle Eastern countries, where women are covered and only eyes and hands are showing, they have strong urge on seks. Don't ride a taxi alone or you'll be by 10 men. Wow, just imagine that you'll have alot to connect sadistically.

They wear long and wide robes, whenever they see woman skin on the nape, arms and lower leg, their robes had a built-in jacks inside One hand gone and he's there standing frozened. Whatever he is doing, so fast to stimulate his imagination.

In Japan, young men, never give extra glances to women who are almost showing their whole piercced bodies with tattoos. And they never give respect to women anymore. But some college students whom I have the same train, is so curious to a woman next to him who never show anything but only the incredible size of her bumpers. It made the young men, get more interested in her. Actually, she's not as beautiful as those other college girls with them.

You don't have to hide it, because it still reveals the size and figure, but it made them curious and insane. Too much revealing, will lessen the arousal for seks. How about the flirty effect?

Simply J


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/4/2007 12:37 pm

Congrats on your exams, Jalo. I knew you would pass, and if YOU were not sure, you could simply have asked ME...

"Too much revealing, will lessen the arousal for seks." I do agree on that. At least, that's true for me and most men over 40 probably.

You make an important point when you tell us that "in Japan, young men, never give extra glances to women who are almost showing their whole piercced bodies with tattoos. And they never give respect to women anymore". That's also true here, especially among teenagers and younger men. As a result, they do not respect women any more, and they feel they do can anything with these women they consider to be NOT respectable. It may not rarely lead to ...

Oh, I'm not in favour of the Middle-Eastern policy. But showing too much is just as bad as showing nothing...

Still, my question remains, and NOBODY bothered to give me an answer -- maybe you and other smart bloggers will: How is it that women show themselves as naked as possible, while so often blaming men for being swine with only seks on their minds?

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"How about the flirty effect?" What do you mean. more exactly? Do you mean that nakedness induces flirting?

Well, I guess everybody likes flirting, but I don't think the woman has to be half naked. On the contrary. Wouldn't you say that the pleasure of flirting implies a good degree of uncertainty? If you are sure the other will say yes, you're not flirting, but you're just on your way to bed. Unfortunately, most men consider a lightly dressed woman to be an easy lay. So they might not even bother flirting, but go directly to the point...


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/4/2007 12:41 pm

Goldman, "How about making skimpy translucent materials for beach and pool wear?"

Funny idea. I had one of the same sort a few years ago: why not, on regular jeans, draw a drawing of buttocks? You know, I'm pretty sure that would sell... But why would I be a millionaire? Now, if you're interested and can find a manufacturer in China, why not join me in a joint venture?

Being very serious, I am ...


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/4/2007 12:44 pm

Oasis, I think Nan's answer is a good one. Add to it that men would probably not let their women mate with other guys, and there must have already been much pressure on women for hiding their seks parts...


oasispdc
(oasispdc )
38M

8/4/2007 8:08 pm

I think it is a matter of culture. Some places in Africa, people wear much less than those living in cities in Europe. I read about that some African women are naked all day. I think our remote ancestors were totally naked just like Adam and Eve. Because they wore nothing, they had to grow some hair to protect some important parts of their bodies, such as heads and some other important parts.

Please don't disturb a chicken before he hatches.


yulinwinter 45F
49 posts
8/4/2007 8:55 pm

¡°How is it that women show themselves as naked as possible, while so often blaming men for being swine with only seks on their minds?¡±

Women have 2 reasons for showing ourselves: We are proud of our body,we enjoy the time sharing our beauty,with not only men,but also women; We do the first step to attract men by showing our beauty,and hope men take the next step to learn us.But men usually do not follow us well,so that causess our women's disappointment and blaming.

"I wonder how many Chinese women would like to show their breasts to everybody on the beach, and how many Chinese men would allow their wives/girl-friends to do "

surely 0-0.000001%


GoldmanHuangShan 60M

8/4/2007 9:59 pm

I have the manufacturer for garments, all sorts, any sorts, those with 3 pieces of smallest triangles or those that wrap you up like embalming........ from head to toes..... INDEED I have the right manufacturer here in Quanzhou.

So Vincy....you get the orders from anyone including military from the UN or the likes of it..... I ship to you anyway.......pay by LC or cash.

Therefore.....if you have the market, I can make from any material desired...even those that have intelligence with microprocessors that can control filaments to release the correct dose of sensation so that everyone can feel joyful wearing OUR clothes.


oasispdc
(oasispdc )
38M

8/5/2007 1:13 am

Nan,
Even if women and men both wear nothing, it is still unfair because men have to grow beard in order to protect their friable chins, cheeks, and throats.
I read about that many Chinese women were half-naked in Tang dynasty (more than one thousand years ago). But then it somehow tended to be more conservative later.
In fact, it should be colder in Europe than in China and middle-east. However, West women showhow wear less than the Chinese women and middle-east women. Another thing is many women in middle-east wear veil to protect their faces from seeing by other men. But it seem that they don't mind to show their breasts to other men when they are feeding/suckling their babies.

Please don't disturb a chicken before he hatches.


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/5/2007 2:12 am

Yul, I see you are new to blogging -- only two posts so far -- but you are the first of my commentators to be kind enough to answer my questions. Obviously, you're an attentive reader...

"... we enjoy the time sharing our beauty,with not only men,but also women..." I talked about the "half-nakedness" question with my daughters, and just like you, they say that a woman will not necessarily show herself to attract men, but to impress other women. The problem is that a number of men do not understand that -- women should explain it to them.

Women may be sorry that "men usually do not follow [them] well", but isn't it enough if ONE smart man follows ONE smart woman? Or do Chinese women want a lot of men to run after them all the time?

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You say that "0-0.000001%" of the Chinese women would show their breasts on the beach. That may well be the first real cultural difference between the West and the East that I learn about in almost two years of blogging! Poor Chinese men! I hope that in private Chinese women do as Western women do, and they don't hide their breasts...


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/5/2007 2:20 am

Good news, Goldie. I guess we'd better get in touch more seriously. First a market study here, then we meet the manufacturers in China. I am SURE you will be awfully good discussing prices, but remember, it is OUT OF THE QUESTION that we work with companies who do not respect their employees and pay them correctly!

Btw, how is it that you are in GZ? I thought you were in BJ? Or maybe in Malaysia for your holidays...


GoldmanHuangShan 60M

8/5/2007 8:39 am

OK dokie ! The garment factories of the world are in Qz, of which one belongs to my relative whose clients are mainly from middle east like israel, syria etc. they buy by containers. .... hence I provide consultation in int'l trade !

First you study and know what you market wants, then you find out what sort of volume you can commit and I will quote the price. Our company do not hire workers. We treat them as partners by providing them with space and garment machines. They provide the labor and we 'buy-off' from them i.e. we accept those the produce which meet expected quality and in that way of out-sourcing we pay for good pieces only....its a win-win arrangement.

We also provide hostel and meals and recreation.


GoldmanHuangShan 60M

8/5/2007 8:45 am

dvc....i learn to be in many places in a year...its an art ...... God willing, I hope to be in switzerland if someone would hire my talent so that while giving my services, I will also study what can be prospered from Suisse like accupuncture, traditional chinese medicine, trading, catering, .......


GoldmanHuangShan 60M

8/6/2007 7:36 am

Bj is my escape from Qz to see if there is any excitement up North. Next semester I will do some travelling..from Bj..to Tianjin and Jilin and go skiing. There is a good value tour to S.Korea but I think I will let it pass for this year.

October could be a good time to go about


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/7/2007 2:04 am

    Quoting GoldmanHuangShan:
    OK dokie ! The garment factories of the world are in Qz, of which one belongs to my relative whose clients are mainly from middle east like israel, syria etc. they buy by containers. .... hence I provide consultation in int'l trade !

    First you study and know what you market wants, then you find out what sort of volume you can commit and I will quote the price. Our company do not hire workers. We treat them as partners by providing them with space and garment machines. They provide the labor and we 'buy-off' from them i.e. we accept those the produce which meet expected quality and in that way of out-sourcing we pay for good pieces only....its a win-win arrangement.

    We also provide hostel and meals and recreation.
That's very interesting, indeed.

We'll come back to it later, and I'll come back to this post later, as I am a bit short of time right now... I commented too much on other posts and time flies...


davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
8/9/2007 4:31 am

I mostly agree on your historical summary, Nan, and on your philosophical approach to the role and value of bodies.

My concern -- and I mean, my worries -- is about the EFFECT of that evolution. A growing number of in the West, less and less respect for girls and women on uneducated boys' and men's part, teenagers who have lost all sense of limits, who are not content to simply look up girls' skirts and all in all the coming back of the gross distinction that used to be made between females: on the one hand, the "virtuous" ones we may marry (the ones who dress less seksily), and on the other hand the "wh0res" we may only use as seks toys (the ones who dress more seksily)...


chenqin63 53F

11/28/2007 9:31 pm

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davinci2rinpoche 63M
4722 posts
11/29/2007 5:20 am

Thanks for your comment, Qin. You are welcome anytime to debate here with our friends.

As you say, each has their own sort of beauty...