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victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F
3081 posts
3/2/2008 2:06 am
流產 -- The Abortion


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My girlfriend had a baby today. The is very lucky because she was born six weeks prematurely. Her parents really wanted her. I wondered what would have happened if her parents did not want her.

I always question the use of the word “Choice” in America. Some people think of it as a Declaration of Independence because they say a woman owns her body and can choose to give birth or not. In fact, until the ’s body exits the body of a woman it is only called a fetus. In America, "Late-Term Abortions" are permitted up until the moment of birth. It is legal because a fetus is killed, not a . I have heard of women having serial abortions, many just moments before the birth of the . This is not murder. It is called abortion.

A man was sent to prison for the murder of an unborn when the mother was accidentally shot in a drive-by shooting. The mother survived, the baby did not. How can that be murder since the was inside the mother and was a fetus? Society cannot choose when a fetus has a Constitutional right to Life because under the concept of Choice it is the mother who chooses.

I wondered about this today because a woman was in the elevator with me. She looked almost ready to deliver but instead was on her way to have her baby aborted.

I feel sad.

Vicky

victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

3/7/2008 9:36 pm

    Quoting  :

I take no offense at all and in fact I do welcome you to my blog as a friend.

When I was standing inside that elevator with the woman in the wheelchair going to the abortion clinic I felt sadness but I also knew I could not be judgemental since I did not know why it was going to end that way for the unborn child.

As you say, perhaps it was better this way or there could have been a medical condition involved.

It is always the woman's choice in the end and I can only enforce my beliefes on me and repect the right of others.

VICKY


Warm_and_nice 70M
818 posts
3/3/2008 2:17 am

My natural mother had one great love in her life... it was called the "British Army". She carried nine children by various ranks. Allowing for one still-born twin, five of us were put up for adoption at various ages up to about a year old. All but one of us has now been "reunited" with her.

For me it was the best thing she could ever have done, even though there was a large degree of selfishness in her decision. I bear no malice toward her for that, in fact quite the opposite, but for some of my siblings the pain still runs very deep. Whichever view we take I am thankful that the abortion option did not enter into the equation for any of us.

In some East European countries abortion is accepted as such a normal way of life to the extent that it is, possibly, the major form of contraception. This is bad news on many levels.

I cannot understand how a woman can go to almost full term and then have an abortion except, perhaps, in the most extreme medical circumstances. To do it by choice is, to me, irrational.

But who are we to judge. People make their own decisions for their own reasons. We can only hope that they have been given adequate support in the making of that decision so that they can find peace with it within themselves.

The best contraceptive, by the way, is the word "No".

May your God go with you.


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

3/2/2008 11:21 pm

    Quoting dcba9696:
    阿弥陀佛!吉祥如意!
I certainly respect your opinion.

Thanks you

VICKY


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

3/2/2008 11:20 pm

    Quoting MrHickok:
    Vicky:

    This subject is not one for a blog where the passions on this subject are so very personal. One forms their attitude most often based on a religious conviction. I respect those convictions.

    What I don't respect is the prevalent religious doctrine by many to impose their beliefs and faith on the masses. Religion is a faith practiced by the individual: Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Buddhism, Taoist, or Shinto. Religion has been one of the most destructive forces in the history of mankind as well as a salvation to many.

    Allow me to accept, understand a faith others may practice, live by. But, do not impose it upon me. I will make my own choice of faith.

    The pilgrims first came to the Americas to escape the religious intolerance imposed by the Church of England.

    And fact check: The Supreme Court as recently as April, 2007 ruled first term abortions are still a matter of "choice." However individual States have the legal right to further restrict access. The Supreme Court also ruled partial birth abortions illegal. The law contains an exemption that allows a woman to obtain a D&X procedure if the continued pregnancy threatened the life of the mother. However, it does not contain a health exemption that would allow her to obtain a D&X procedure if needed to prevent very serious negative consequences to her health -- perhaps involving permanent disability.

    Partial birth abortions are so rarely given, offered by Drs. The threat of Damacles hangs over their heads by local prosecutors whether their medical decisions have merit or not.

    As I've said I respect the religious conviction of others. However, give me the freedom and respect to follow mine. As I recall from my bible studies Christ was the most forgiving and least condeming figures in religious faith.

    Lastly, given that birth is solely the domain of a woman and unique to women they have a perspective I can not assume to know.
Perhaps it does not belong but for those who do not want to participate in the discussion then it should not bother them.

I am not sure where I stand on a woman's right to choose.

I am just sad that there are people out there who cannot have a baby and who are looking for one.

But I know some people discover late in the pregnancy through some sort of testing that maybe the infant will have some sort of disability. It is then that woman's decision as to what to do.

I have seen children with Down syndrom. I sometimes wonder if maybe they are copies of what we were before somehow we developed into our modern selves. And that perhaps what we are is not normal but the ones with Down are. At least they seem to be happier then we are. But then again, I am not an expert in that field, now do I want to be.

Feel free anytime to join in any discussion. I am always learing to learn something new.

Thanks for sharing.


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

3/2/2008 11:15 pm

    Quoting usamariyana:
    Don't be sad,Because no one will know the matter that will take place.
That is true. But I am sad for the loss of a life that could have been.


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

3/2/2008 11:14 pm

    Quoting  :

Yes, I agree, abortion is a very emotional subject. I try not to push any buttons but I do enjoy a good conversation where I can learn other points of view so that I might be able to form a more informed opinion.

Thanks for sharing yours.


victorylee0516
(victoria lee)
42F

3/2/2008 11:12 pm

I tend to with hold judgement as to why people have an abortion. However, I wish they would consider maybe the alternatives such as giving up the child for adoption.

As I was looing at my friend's little baby in the special room where they keep premature children, I could not help but wonder about the woman who was going to abort hers.

In my mind there is no difference between a fetus and a baby. It is only to the degree that society affords protections to each in its quest for Life.


hotcold3333
(timmy )
57M
116 posts
3/2/2008 5:00 pm

hi Vicky your the best

look like some woman youse Abortions as a kind of contraceptive
which is wrong


usamariyana
(you li)
71F

3/2/2008 6:10 am

Don't be sad,Because no one will know the matter that will take place.


SteveZ
(Steve Z)
50M

3/2/2008 4:10 am

Well, it is sad that some wait so long to make a choice Imop...
and Im not sure I fully agree with that.

But, I will say that sometimes its a lot better for abortion
than to let a child suffer with parents that are not loving,
caring, financially sound, father was a , mentally ill,
etc. (A moment of pain, vs a lifetime of it)

The man you spoke of killed the chance for that mothers future child to be. Was it murder? That is a hard thing to say. Does one consider stepping on an Ant murder? How about cutting a chicken up
for dinner? Life is filled with these hard questions.

Another interesting question is... should masturbation for men
considered murder if they are not injecting a woman?! As they
are killing millions of possible lifeforms... Ok, so that is
very very awful compared to the topic... but, I just wanted to
make the point, about what we consider life... and what we value.


There are many woman who do and will always Regret Abortions...
and many have to seek consoling about it because of the after effects,
which can be very damaging.

So if one is in a hard position, one may want to really think
about it very carefully. Sometimes it may make life very tough
when raising a child when you are not in a good position, yet,
one can do it and prevail... and everything will work out fine in
the end. Sometimes if you wait too long, or until things are
perfectly stable in your life, then it may be too late to have them.