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Chemical weapons in Syria As you may noticed that the most current event is chemical weapon killed at least 1,429 people including 426 in Syria. It is an inconceivable horror that the region killed its own civilians. Our primary ally, British, has voted to reject attack Syria. It sounds to me that USA will go it alone to attack Syria. President Obama said “no boots on the ground approach”, that means no troops, no soldiers will be in Syria. I think he will use “smart bomb”, “missiles” and “drone” to surgically attack the precise military sites or buildings to dramatically reduce the casualties of our soldiers. U.S.A. has been a “world policemen” for many years. WWII, Korea war, Vietnam war, Iraq war (twice, father and of Bush), Afghanistan, and now Syria. To engage in a war will spend lots of money and sacrifice many lives and the results have been blamed by domestic and international people. I like to travel, but NEVER been to any “Mid-East” region because I don’t understand their religion, tradition, culture, thoughts. They force their women to wear "burkas", or cover from neck down. They stone women to dead, or put women in jail when the women have been . Women can’t drive cars or have education. I would like to help “Mid-East” women but I know I shouldn’t involve. This kind of “barbarism” is simply incompatible. I won’t step-in those regions even Egypt and Israel because I don’t want to put myself in jeopardy. A girl in Pakistan, Milala Yousafzai, had been shot on her head in close range because she advocated that “girls have right to be educated”, luckily she survived. I once dated a guy who is a Muslim (I didn’t know until I met him), I can’t even lunch with him because he doesn’t eat pork and Chinese eat pork. He listened to Arabic music which I don’t understand. So, after a coffee, I said “Good-bye” and NEVER see him. Isn't this world simpler, if there is no God? Muslim men can have four wives but women can only have one husband. How can you change “Mid-East” region by a war? They have their own minds, thoughts, religion, cultures, languages that we don’t understand them, they don’t understand us. To have a war or not to have a war in Syria will be a dilemma for Obama. Honesty is the best policy. |
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Thank you for your compliment. However, there are NOTHING I can do for Assad to give up chemical weapons or stop the civil war. I really don't understand Assad who is an Eye Doctor. Every MD has to swear to save lives to the best of his/her ability. Why did Assad want to use chemical weapons to kill his own civilians? I don't know. Honesty is the best policy.
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Did Assad regime hand out their entire chemical weapons to U.N. yet? Anybody follow-up this matter? It seems to me that Obama is more concentrate on "government shutdown" and "debt ceiling" lately, that will give Assad the opportunity NOT to give up their chemical weapons entirely to avert an attack by USA. It is NOT an easy job as a President of United State, the leader of free world. Honesty is the best policy.
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To pinkcrystal; Thank you for your responses and compliments. I am glad that there is YOU to agree with me about the religion - "Agnostic". I was a Catholic for my first 30+ years because I was born into a Catholic family. As I grew older, I realized I don't want to "think inside the box", so I chose Agnostic that is NOT exactly "Atheist" but totally different from any religions. I am "Thinking Outside of Box". Lots of people don't agree with me, I understand. It is giant change for everyone concern. As far as the gender, women in USA is consider to be more fortunate than any country in the world. Women can have education, the right to vote, reach as far as you want to be. Women in USA have more freedom and "Respect" than any place in the world. I have been living in USA for 33 and half years, I like this country except "Gun Control" that is NOT enforced as much as I want. People in USA still can get guns easily. Too many killings in schools, street, malls, movie theater, .... I strongly object to NRA (National Rifle Association). To own a gun equals to have violence. I simply against NRA. This world needs "peace" NOT "violence". NRA is stupid. What country you are in now? Have you ever come to USA? I think USA is very generous to all the immigrants who came from any country in the world. I hope I answered your questions. Thank you for your responses and I wish you to have a great weekend. Honesty is the best policy.
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When the days that we don't need "oil" to drive cars, that will be the down days for those Arabians. Don't they know all the people were born from "Women"? How can they treat their women that way? Stupid Arabian men. So ridiculous !! The recent carnage at a shopping mall in Kenya is another example of their stupidity. Islamic militants killed at least 67 people and injured more than 100 people at a shopping mall for no reason. They let the Muslims leave but killed all others. They tested Koran to the people at the mall. This is outrageous. I enjoy shopping very much. Shopping is supposed to be a relaxing and enjoyment but now it became a "killing field". What kind of world we are in? I repeat what I said before "We don't understand Muslims and they don't understand us". I am a secular humanist. I only want to save people from disease/ sickness, but NOT harm anyone. That's why I am an Agnostic. I don't understand why people don't know religions are to separate people from different beliefs. Why they need to defend for their God? Human is doing human's things. There is no God. If there is a God, please stop those killings or nature disasters before happened. God is supposed very mighty to prevent any unfortunate things happened. Where is God when we need Him? Why the prayers didn't work? Honesty is the best policy.
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We are as a nation and the world... in " Pause" Mode. Maybe we can hope for a course correction .. As some Senators said: We have spent 1.6 Trillion dollars (actually 2 Trillion+ along with assuming more than 5-8 trillion in debts) and lots of weapons fired and people killed maimed and much else... Still in the Middle East, nothing has much changed. The Soviets, tried for many years to modernize this region and failed, before that the French tried, and many others have tried, and it is still the same as it was... They are still fighting each other. Repressing the women and in many regards remaining with various all consuming dogmasof mindsets that continue to promote more of the same. At some point the world might figure it out... Unless you give all the kids ear plugs and blindfolds, They will only continue to promote more of the same.. (THAT IS SAD).. When areas reject allowing the people to modernize their mentalities, and they keep their women contained in repressive systems, while allowing cleric's to influence the landscape of the communities. Moreso, allowing their religious factions to control the governing process... nothing will change. Bombs and Bullets simply can't change that. 100's of billions of dollars have been spent to blow up rocks and sand in Afghanistan, has done nothing but blown up rocks and sand while various "groups" of militia's each with varying ideas roam the barren lands spending a fortune on weapons simply to kill, has resulted to killed a lot of people and turned many citizens into nomads... and still, nothing has changed. America can't contain and remedy the situations of gangs in cities living like urban terrorist, nor can it stop the kids killing each other, shooting up schools, corporations stealing and lying, banks running criminal organizations that have become national monopolies, and dumb business men seeking slaves of foreign soils... It cannot contain the wild media and their selling and marketing of indentured servitude programming, while they work to develop mob mentalities in a divisive progressive aim. While bigotry today is as robust as it was in the 1800's.... and we speed head first into a repeat of 1929 Great Depression... with over inflated stock and high speculation which becomes the modern day robber and business crashing machine. Our schools are declining, some closing because of low birth rate over the past 30 years, communities crumble and tax revenue to support schools vanish. We now have people claiming ownership of 10's of billions in personal wealth, while we have a nation of many working for less than $10 an hour. when we have a system where it cost more than $50-55 dollars a day to live with basic amenities and utility, and yet we have minimum wage jobs that pay less than $60 dollars a day. And we appear to think we are doing fine, because a few people with suits and 'paid for get a job certificates" tell us, that we are doing fine. Potholes line the streets, bridges crumble and highways that are 20 years past their lifespan, become a trail spanning across the nations, where it use to be a pristine highway. We've brought back train's more than a mile long each, filled with war equipment coming back form the Middle East, with no method, mean and not even a plan for its usage. All the while the military industrial complex is happy, because they made a fortune many times over. Gun manufacturers insuring there is no less than the equivalent of 10+ guns of each gun type, created on the market, and highly promoted. and still we have not even began to address the political corruptions that continues to bring destruction by their every vote. Now where in this picture do we have the means and the support to try and fix Syria, Iraq, or any other place for that matter? We have veterans, who can't get the care they need, and deception and pretentious programs, that shuffle them around in a circle with false hope of pending services that result to be never delivered or provided. these are the sons and daughters of the struggling Americans, who become the forgotten casualties... while the wealthy gain more and more wealth. Today's News: WASHINGTON (AP) -- The gulf between the richest 1 percent and the rest of America is the widest it's been since the Roaring '20s. The very wealthiest Americans earned more than 19 percent of the country's household income last year — their biggest share since 1928, the year before the stock market crash. And the top 10 percent captured a record 48.2 percent of total earnings last year. U.S. income inequality has been growing for almost three decades. And it grew again last year, according to an analysis of Internal Revenue Service figures dating to 1913 by economists at the University of California, Berkeley, the Paris School of Economics and Oxford University. One of them, Berkeley's Emmanuel Saez, said the incomes of the richest Americans surged last year in part because they cashed in stock holdings to avoid higher capital gains taxes that took effect in January. In 2012, the incomes of the top 1 percent rose nearly 20 percent compared with a 1 percent increase for the remaining 99 percent. the great sham promoted by the PhD's continues. Economists point to several reasons for widening income inequality. In some industries, U.S. workers now compete with low-wage labor in China and other developing countries. Clerical and call-center jobs have been outsourced to countries such as India and the Philippines.) Still, he added: "We need to decide as a society whether this increase in income inequality is efficient and acceptable." ______________________________________________________
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I feel it is a trap from Russian Putin and Syria Assad because Putin said on G-20 Summit few days ago that he is backing Assad and during CBS reporter, Charlie Rose interview, Assad said his government doesn't have "chemical weapons". All the sudden, Putin wants to persuade Assad hand over the chemical weapons that Assad denied he NEVER had. Go figures !! Something is very fishy, it probably is a trap to avoid Obama attack Syria. Tomorrow is 9/11, what a timing???? Honesty is the best policy.
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President Barack Obama’s campaign for an attack on Syria took an unexpected turn as his administration inadvertently gave the Assad regime a potential way out that spawned second thoughts on Capitol Hill and enthusiasm among international opponents of a military strike. After Secretary of State John Kerry suggested in off-the-cuff comments that President Bashar al-Assad could avert an attack by promptly handing his chemical weapons to the international community, Russia declared its support and quickly got Damascus on board. The shift, which Obama called “a potentially positive development,” paused a Senate debate and complicated the president’s pitch to a reluctant country. He began to lay out his case to Americans in TV interviews on Monday, in advance of a prime-time address to the nation on Tuesday. The Russian proposal threatened to further erode support for military action, and lawmakers seized on it to avoid a vote that even in the Democratic-controlled Senate was appearing in doubt, a trend likely detected by White House officials. However, administration officials and many lawmakers also expressed skepticism about the offer, citing the record of Assad and his ally, Russian President Vladimir Putin, during the 2 ½ -year civil war. I don't like war, but I don't trust Assad or Putin. Honesty is the best policy.
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A question raised, is Obama sending a message that other country (regime) can have civil war so long NOT using "chemical weapons" - Sarin gas? I am a Democrat and voted Obama twice. Honesty is the best policy.
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Quoting Worldly_51: I lived/worked in Muslim countries for almost 6 yrs, did spend lots of time reading the Qur'an/ studying Arabic and talking to my Muslim friends/colleagues, but still can't claim to have understood them. The same for the US, where I studied/worked for 11 yrs, but still don't understand the idiocy/bigotry of NRA and Wall Street. I think I know USA much better than Arabic regions. I've been living & working in CA since 1980 (33 years) longer than my birthplace, Taiwan. USA promotes/ advocates "Democracy" and wants every country in the world to have justice. From WWII, "cold war" with Russia, Korea war, Vietnam war, USA fought against "communists". When Iraq invaded Kuwait, Bush Sr. sent troops to Middle East and stepped on Saudi Arabia that made Osama bin Ladin very mad. bin Ladin hated Americans and trained many young Muslim idiots in Afghanistan to kill Americans. bin Ladin told those stupid Muslim boys that if they kill Americans, they can go to heaven and have 72 wives after they died. (Who needs so many girls in heaven? Who knows anything when you died? go figure !) Anyway, bin Ladin chose that dreadful day, 9/11/2001 morning on 4 American's airplanes, hijacked the pilots and took over those 4 planes flew into World Trade twin towers and Pentagon, .... you all know what happened that day. (BTW, 9/11 is very near from now) Bush Jr. was the U.S. president, he started to strike back from Afghanistan Taliban, searched for bin Ladin, live or dead. However, he also sent troops to Iraq to finish the war that his father didn't finish. Bush Jr. killed Saddam Hussein but NEVER found bin Ladin in his 2 term presidency. Obama sent "Seal" to find bin Ladin and killed him. For those wars above, USA lost too many soldiers but no country appreciated what USA has done for them. In USA, our people complained too. For those wars, we spent too much money and too many lives and took too long time. This time, Syria used "chemical weapons" Sarin to bomb its innocent civilians which Obama thinks Syria has broken the "international norm". So, Obama wants to punish Syria to make sure no other country (or regime) use "chemical weapons". Obama wants no soldier on Syria ground and it will be a quick war. Let's hear what Obama will say in his speech tonight. Al-Assad accepted a TV interview by Charlie Rose on CBS and said he didn't use gas attack his people and USA has no evidence that his government did. Al-Assad wants John Kerry to show evidences. Honesty is the best policy.
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Another well-known example was the breakup in the Indian sub-continent into India and Pakistan (back then E Pakistan, which is now Bangladesh, and W Pakistan - the present Pakistan), again, w/ little regards for their religious, linguistic or ethnic differences. Similarly, the same high-handed idiocy happened in Africa. Some Americans, in their usual simple-minded approach towards politics, fail to read/understand history w/ adequate intelligence; thus, the US has often stormed into situations like bulls in a china shop Yes, I agree... People like to forget what the Western Nations did on many lands, with their drawing of lines in the sand, all in the aim to control resources, and play policy shift games, whenever they felt it gave them a upper hand to control something. The result is the people of those nations did not matter, it was all about , divide and conquer and take the spoils and pursue them as profits at the expense of the people they were taken from. Sadly, After World War II the delusion of world power and the all powerful police nation mentality became a sickness in this country. We stomped around the globe for years, with a delusion that everyone else was second rate, pushing our agenda, without the full force of being diplomatic. We used the illusion of power.. and the results contribute to the global madness that exist. We were not alone in this sickness, We were aided by every nation that has a predominantly Caucasian majority base, some nations did their dirt and claimed they were innocent, such as the Nordic Regional nations, they plundered and then went home and claimed neutral while they continue to fund conflicts from a distance. all so they can live to a ultra high standard, off the resources and toils of others, and remain non suspect to a world that is blinded to see the truths. I speak about this variety of stuff on various blogs, as well as when I speak about the economic aims of the Slaver Nation Mentality, of seeking work slaves on foreign soil, to avert economic equilibrium from being available to women, minorities and poor whites. the result is, the cost of offshore productions is, broken families and communities, bankrupt cities and a crumbling infrastructure, and singing songs about decades ago building success, While current day, every nation that this country went to seeking slave labor, is not ahead of this nation in infrastructure building, uplift of people on a % basis and and many other successes. while a small circle of the wealthy claim mass profits while the masses are relegated to food stamps and clerk jobs, in a nation where the cost of living is at a high standard than the income can meet, yet all the profits remain at the top. We have become a nation talking about workers rights, when we bust unions to avoid treating workers fair and paying them a living wage and we have a right wing that has still the slaver mindset that it does not want to support health care for all the people. The delusion of image does not match with the reality across the landscape. yet we are trying to govern from a distance the conduct of foreign nations. While we can't get over the racism and bigotry that has driven this nation into a second rate standard. Yes there are many good things among the people in America, and much good will in the average citizen, but out politicians are corrupt and interested more in filling their pockets and remaining in office, than actually doing the jobs they were sent to do. The people believe too much in the delusions pushed in the media, rather than use the single voice to challenge the corruptions of banks, insurance companies, medical companies and the stupid PhD's who tell them its cheaper to produce over-seas, when the cost of doing so has taken down once great cities. But people believe anything someone in a suit has to say and then they will follow anything people with money tell them is the thing to do. The loss of individual character is a sickness, led by reality TV, Profane Entertainers, and TV shows that sell nothing but murder plots, images of mass destruction and inhuman characters and then the youth are lost in the consumption with gadgets, that ever 3 months they are led like fools to buy the next advertised model, when they can't use the all the functions on the previous model.. But the aim of status based on acquiring commercial products, has made a material society. Love now is about economics, and too many women live like they are a commodity, and treat sex as if they think its something that give her the avenue to act and fool, abuse and be insidious in even general social conduct. In this setting, soon as they get an income, they become to self consumed to have any regard to respect what is building a family and how to appreciate a man as a person. We are on a fast track of decline of every sort. Our business people can't make humane decisions, because they ware worried about status and title and playing up to the name game. The delusion of 'no money" has people accepting things to fall apart and then make excuses why they can't fix or upgrade anything. No we don't have any room to try and fight other peoples wars, We wasted 2 trillion dollars in Iraq and Afghanistan, and that does not include the cost of medical expense and other cost that puts the real figure at 4-5 trillion when we add in the Military Industrial Complex Rip Off that became a part of the losses. Nope, Let the world community make their stand and push to address Syria... It is not an America Province. If the coalition choose to do something, that is one things, but we are not the nation that needs to ship billions and 100's of billion of dollars of equipment across the sea, when we have ships still bring back trillions of dollars of equipment that was sent there over the past 10 or more years. We sent over carts of cash, and passed it out like it was bubble gum, and we achieved nothing in the end, because Iraq and Afghanistan is still a mess, this does not even begin to address the way we sold our so called Democracy Nation to the Communist Nation of China, all so the wealthy could profit and try and use the Chinese people as a new slave port for production.. The result of cost is, within 30 years, the transfer of wealth from America to China has practically been achieved. to an alarming level, Where we can't survive without Chinese Underwriting, and Arab Oil Nations Underwriting. Still ... the wealthy have lined up even more things to sell off.
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No country is as shiny as its propaganda... every nations may need to consider carefully how they ingest their own publicity.. what we do see and know is that these regions of Arab nation do have a very high volume of blowing up people and things... We can't help but know it because its a daily news items with commentary and images of the act and fact it happened. Who, and Why, is another different perspective of angle to grasp. We have conflicts among people across the globe, but we have more of the blowing up things centered in one cultural region, and it is more highly common in and area that promote highly its religious stand over many other stands as its motivating driver in many of the factions who engage to blow up things and people. Burkas are no more ugly than jeans or G-string bikinis, the important thing is to give women the choice to decide what they want. In many of these areas, the women are not given the choice, and that is much of the point being discussed about the treatment of women.. is the lack of choice under these Islamic sectors, who deny that choice.
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another point that was discussed, was concerning the fact that some of these weapons may fall in the wrong hands, if there are any mis-caculation in attack coordinates or by some means the security around these weapons become compromised and lead to these weapons finding their way into the hands of those who may seek broad based malice. We also don't know the affiliation the Syrian Regime has to links with radical who aim to promote their Jihad aspirations. Nor do we know if these weapons will be transferred to these factions to avoid the destruction of the weapons. There are many unknowns in the scenarios. I doubt the US or any Coalition can guarantee 100% containment of these weapons. Soon as the concerns for a strike were publicized, it is quite logical that the movement of these weapons went into overdrive... this alone can be a breach to the security that is needed to secure the locations where these weapons will be housed. Maybe the aim should be at taking out the leadership... and have the UN to get enough backbone to put in a Intern Leadership, until some type of election can be structured and held to elect a leader the people can agree upon. maybe they may even need a leadership panel rather than a single person as a leader. However things proceed it is dangerous, and no one should be under any delusion that some 'closed in action" is going to be achieved. That seems quite impractical considering the multiple of factions that are engaged in these internal Syrian conflicts. We can't be lulled into some complacency about what is security, nor thinking we are all powerful to exact some actions that is a end all scenario, based on a military actions of this nature. We are not unaware people, We should be well aware of the results of Iraq, the aim there was first for weapons, then to take out the leader, and what resulted was 10 years of death and destruction, and still there is instability in Iraq. You can't change the ideology of people with a bomb or bullets.. there are fundamental things that formulate the foundations behind both side, and they go far and beyond surface political differences. In these regions the religion is within the structure of the foundation, therefore it is religion that is within the make up of the political foundations of all factions. These aspects of Religious Ideology is the driver of much within the conflicts that exist. They may have all these elements, then compound that with economic, human rights and social conditions of secular divides... We too often try to see things as if they are contained in a simple box, this is often our mistake as well as the mistake of others. We want to box and label things that have too many elements to fit within the box. Maybe the key is to find ways to 'link the boxes"... this is where diplomacy become the functioning process. But first people have to be willing to talk, then they must be willing to compromise and they must be committed to finding a viable solution. Anything short of that is : "Conflict" It is and has been historically difficult to bridge the dogma's of secular ideologies and there are many forces that support various dogmatic ideological concepts, and there are aims for various dogma's to dominate and in the aim to dominate, some dogmatic ideologies have a singular aim, to eliminate by destruction the other ideological dogmatic factions. These are not Democratic systems, they are extremely far from the concept of being anything remotely close to Democratic systems. Therefore thinking and deal within them from a concept of Democratic foundations, is and will miss the reality of what is being dealt with. Because it simply does not conform to adopt itself to Democratic ideals. It would take Martial Law Impositions to force unity compliance, and that will take much work to maintain Martial Law, because the factions will not cease to over-throw it. These are elements that are about 'Belief system"... with direct Religious Convictions to their dogmas and the beliefs that support their concepts which construct the dogmatic processes. Now, how do you wipe out that historical infused reality? Without wiping out the whole of the masses. Maybe we may need to go back and look at the Bosnian and Serb conflicts and see what worked and what did not work... Sadly, history already shows us, that division of state land mass is nothing but a time bomb process, we see that with what the British tried to do with India and Pakistan. Other Arab/Islamic Nations are watching, and what ever happens here will have reprecussive or reflective actions in other States of the Region. We forget the conflicts in Egypt is not settled, nor is it a done deal. Iraq is still unstable, and Afghanistan is unstable. Now look at the list of Arab countries. 2) Bahrain*1 Population: 738,004 Official Language: Arabic 3) Comoros1 Population: 773,407 Official Languages: Arabic and French 4) Djibouti*1 Population: 740,528 Official Languages: Arabic and French 5) Egypt*1 Population: 80,471,869 Official Language: Arabic 6) Iraq*1 Population: 29,671,605 Official Languages: Arabic and Kurdish (only in Kurdish regions) 7) Jordan*1 Population: 6,407,085 Official Language: Arabic 8 Kuwait*1 Population: 2,789,132 Official Language: Arabic 9) Lebanon*1 Population: 4,125,247 Official Language: Arabic 10) Libya*1 Population: 6,461,454 Official Languages: Arabic, Italian and English 11) Malta* Population: 406,771 Official Language: Maltese and English 12) Mauritania*1 Population: 3,205,060 Official Language: Arabic 13) Morocco*1 Population: 31,627,428 Official Language: Arabic 14) Oman*1 Population: 2,967,717 Official Language: Arabic 15) Qatar*1 Population: 840,926 Official Language: Arabic 16) Saudi Arabia*1 Population: 25,731,776 Official Language: Arabic 17) Somalia*1 Population: 10,112,453 Official Language: Somali 18 Sudan*1 Population: 43,939,598 Official Language: Arabic and English 19) Syria*1 Population: 22,198,110 Official Language: Arabic 20) Tunisia*1 Population: 10,589,025 Official Language: Arabic and French 21) United Arab Emirates*1 Population: 4,975,593 Official Language: Arabic 22) Western Sahara Population: 491,519 Official Languages: Hassaniya Arabic and Moroccan Arabic 23) Yemen*1 Population: 23,495,361 Official Language: Arabic __________________________________________ Unless the whole region changes, conflict will simply move from one country to the next... and the cycle is already in its procession of movements.
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Something is going to happen, because the world can't allow these use of these weapons on people. We don't know where wind drifts will take these chemicals, or how they will spread their effects. I don't know if its a good idea for Russia to put the aim and pursuit of money gains above the value of human lives to such a degree. ( but we know this is a trait that is within mankind). One thing is certain, No nation is Perfect, but America does try to have a front row and many times and out front stance against atrocities that are blatant abuses of human beings. ( yes we have needs to improve race relations within the US but we are not 'using chemical weapons on people to contain them). Good that Nations about the world do take a stand. I also don't understand why China stands against any efforts of nations to address these things. China wants to gain profit from everyone, but they are among the back row runners, when it come to taking any stand to support doing something to fight terrorism, or to stand against the use of Chemical Weapons. I don't even know if taking Assaid Out is the complete answer, but in many ways he needs to go.. and the WORLD COMMUNITY, may need to stand up to support a regime that will promote humane respect of people...
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Okay, let's just discussion my topic "Chemical Weapons in Syria" without derail to "Religion differences". As far as I know from news that Syria already had civil war that has been going on for 2 & 1/2 years and claimed over 100,000 Syrian lives, but on August 21 someone possibly Al-Assad used "Chemical Weapons" - Sarin (a nerve gas) to strike his innocent civilians and caused 1,429 lives. Chemical weapons have caused only a small fraction of the deaths in Syria's civil war, but the response they have provoked echoes that from wars around the world during the 20th century. Obama called "using chemical weapons has crossed the "Red Line" for "international norm". Both Russia and China (have veto privileges) reject to punish Syria by launching missiles to strike Syrian regime. Our ally, British, also voted NOT to join with U.S. to bomb Syria. Many allies including French President said Syria using chemical weapons should be punished, but they all told Obama to wait for U.N. investigation result and approval. Russia President, Putin said in G-20 Summit that he will continue to support Syria weapons to defense. Obama got "senator" approval but waiting for congressman vote in next week. So, obviously the tipping point for Obama want to strike Syrian regime was "Chemical Weapons". Otherwise, Obama would intervened since Syria civil war begun. 1,429 deaths in chemical weapons is just a small proportion of 100,000 deaths that civil war caused. Hope you join my discussion, if you have your different opinions. Thanks for your responses and join in my blogs. I feel I am very fortunate to live in Western world and have Democracy. So, as an Asian woman, I can speak out my opinions for justice, having education, wear fashion dresses, .... in comparison of communist and Muslim/ Islam world. I wish this is a peaceful world. Nobody likes to have war. However, the chemical weapons seems to be a last straw to break Obama's back. Honesty is the best policy.
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As with any subject of any blog, it may take on many elements of focal points. as with any circle.. in basic there is 360 points of access of which each of the 360 points may become each a focus of axis of address to the circle,
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As I said before, I don't want to influence or persuade anyone to have same thinking as mine. We all have different thinking that's why our Constitution said Freedom of speech, religion and press. I simply want to say what I believe. I have a blog about "Religion" posted here. Honesty is the best policy.
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I believe in God, but I don't aspire to the multitudes of religious institutional dogma's.. and rituals. For me, I don't think believing in God is filled with the rituals many organizations use as 'hooks".. one has to believe in a higher power for their own understanding and regards. I don't worship Pastor's, Preachers, Pope's and the likes. they are "teachers"... and all do not have the basic honesty in motive and intention, but likewise so, if they do have basic and honest motives and intentions, they are human beings. I don't believe in the evolution theory, I do however think that time does being some levels of changes, but I don't believe I evolved from some sea tadpole or such. It is true that many religious teaching do divide people, that is something I never understood, but I also attribute that to "man" and the pursuit of money and power, seeking influence and dominance over other mankind. I also see woman, as man's help mate, not inferior or lesser than, but simply a help mate, who has a different body design which aids in the facilitation of reproduction. It's often people as I said earlier, make separatist distinction based on which particular church another goes to. All these things are "man made".... I never believed in the concept of the European coming to America and telling the existing Indian's that their concept of God was wrong. I also don't grasp the concept of "Kings and Queens" very well. but I do see a need in a communal society for some forms of leadership. As to the continual and incessant bombing and killing of masses of people in the Middle East, I find to be utterly stupid... and especially the radical and fanatical factions with some crazy claim that God told them to kill others. Or the vanity of ignorance of thinking that by killing someone they are going to some after life and be given some virgins, that has to be to me one of the stupidest hooks ever used and its not even imaginable to me how anyone could be driven to believe such silliness. I don't know where the spirit of life goes, when the body dies... but I don't think it just dissipates into nothingness.
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To goannaoil: Thank you for your compliment. Honesty is the best policy.
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I don't like the dictator Al Assad using chemical weapon to kill innocent civilians, don't like Osama bin Ladin sent 18 young idiots to USA using American airplanes flew into our buildings and killed more than 3,000 lives on that dreadful day, 9/11/2001. Don't like Taliban forced Afghanistan women to wear ugly burkas. Don't like suicide bombers, ..... and all those stupid Arab mentalities. They use the religion to brainwash people. They hate Americans including allies (Westerners). They don't know what is right from wrong. They are NOT educated. We don't understand them and they don't understand us. I don't like extremists or crazy about "Religion". Although I am NOT a Christian anymore (used to be a Catholic for my first 30 years), but I don't harm anyone. I don't pray to any God for what I wish for. I do my best to reach my goal. I don't want to go to heaven or hell because there is no such places. Religions can divide people because they are too crazy about their dogmas. They believe as long as they believe in their God, they will go to heaven when died. I don't intend to change anyone, nor been changed. I believe in "Golden rule" - Do unto others as you would have them unto you. I am very simple person but NOT religious. I don't depend on God to give me a better life or go to heaven. There are too many conflicts in between different religions. I am out of religion and peaceful. Nobody can preach me to any religion. Most of my email friends are highly educated (MD, PhD, CEO, physicist, ....) and they are either atheists or agnostics or NOT religious. We believe we were born from parents and only one life, but we want to make best out of this life. I like USA, but don't like too much "freedom" owning "gun" and "weapon". Look our society, too easy getting access of gun and weapon, so when someone crazy one day, they shoot innocent people. Don't tell me, people kill people, gun can't kill people. If someone knows where a gun is, in the back of his/ her mind, someday they will use that gun. As "chemical weapon" that is even worse, you know that. I hope I made myself clear who I am and what I stand for. Honesty is the best policy.
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because that is what people wanted to address within the blogs spectrum... the flow of the conversation was not all about weapons, it was about the treatment of women, as well as factions blowing up others, terrorism and variables of religious ideologies. That question was not meant as a mere question, it's meant with angle... but if you'd read the post, they are self explanatory.
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I think it's a bad idea to go there, because there is no such thing as 'bombing another country, and thinking they won't do something in return"... that is not even logical to assume them just accept it. Next comes the weapon sales, then comes the advisers, and following that the boots go on the ground, along with all the Covert for hire missionary type of organizations, hired to fight a secondary war behind the scenes. While this is talking place, the bankers began stealing again, Wall Streets, starts to ramp up the lying game and selling mis labeled stock with fake ratings. the Oil speculators see a windfall to raise the price of fuel... and terrorism opens up to pursue multiple avenues on multiple targets. Money get's shipped over there in baskets, while it cost billions to turn the ships and trains around and send all that equipment back to the Middle East, and then the war profiteers ramp up to make more cheap equipment to ship there. The bullet makers will have a field day, selling train loads of bullets to shot into the sand and hills, while the remainder of the nation which they have not already blown up gets blown up... and Haliburton will again go into high theft and high rip off mode. In the end, a lot of people gets killed, and an already strained VA Medical system will go into higher degree's of over-load and services will diminish and the cry about Money will become the new shockwave across America. This time there is no more home equity to play dupe the people and deplete to pretend the economy is working, we saw what happen the last time they set the game in motion to drain off the equity as a delusion that the economy was working and when people spent the Money and over sold the homes and wall street over traded the paper, the result was no value was left, and economic collapse hit the world stage. the delusion of Wall Street Money is a sham, its based on over value of stock, in companies that could never have production and sales to match the over inflated value that stocks trade. then the speculation bubble crashes, a so called market correction comes, the wealthy cash out and the small and medium investors are left holding empty bags, and Wall Street will crash another long list of companies. what results is the greatest depression beyond what anyone could imagine. It does not take a A bomb to crash the world... it takes acts that are built upon delusions of grandeur Let the Arabs gather together and deal with Syria... They sit on their ass and let this stuff develop... after all these years and all the bombing and all the dictators, they have done not one thing to curtail this madness. There are enough secret military groups around the world, that could take out the leader of Syria in no time. the only reason he is still a leader is because it is profitable to other Arab nations.
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To 55Mark55: Yes, you are right. This chemical weapon attacked its own civilians started from civil war and already claimed 110,000+ lives according to the news I read. So, it is NOT a religion war. Thank you to point it out. Honesty is the best policy.
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To tiara26: I thank you again to reply my blog. Yes, I Googled Hoshyar Foundation and saw the video that Malala Yousafza was in there. USA has spent so much money on attacking Afghanistan, Iraq, now Syria. I think USA should donate those money to Hoshyar Foundation, this way is the peaceful method to change the whole region's mentality. I also emailed out and told all my email friends to Google "Hoshyar Foundation" and donate money to this foundation. Now I understand you a little bit more. You came from Indonesia, NOT from Mid-East where the desert is. You chose to be a teacher in education and realized how important of education. I am an Agnostic. I doubt there is a God. My opinions about religion might be too provocative for some people to accept. I believe we only have one life. There is no "past life" or "after life". Once we die, we don't go to heaven or hell. (Why do you think there are only two kinds of people or two places to go?) If there is a God, God doesn't need money to build church, mosque, temple, .... to worship God. Pastors are human too. Why worship pastors to donate tithes to build bigger church? When Japan had a 8.9 magnitude earthquake in 3-2011, you kneed down to pray to God to stop this horrible disaster, did God appear to save lives? In criminal case, why the God didn't stop the murderer before the killing? If you still object my opinion, please let your God talk to me. If one day God talk to me, I will believe. But up to this date, I still haven't heard from God. There were no miracles. There are only human doing human think. I am NOT an atheist because I leave a room for possible that one day God will talk to me. (smile) Honesty is the best policy.
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As to Russia: Russia does not want to face the truth of the Chemical attacks and the countless 1000's who have been killed, because it is delighting in selling Arms to Syria. But Russia also is not very high on the human rights issues promotions. They are still stuck with many ideal from a Communist dominance mentality. They don't regard the abuse of people as a high priority issue, because history of communism does not respect nor regard individuals, It is about state based dominance to do what ever the state wants to do without regard to the opinions of the people. Therefore, listening to Putin, is futile... He is still stuck in 1960 Communist dominance ideals. Not one thing has he said about the poor treatment of women in these Arab Nations. He simply does not care to address or show concern for or about it. China, seem to have little concern for the chemical attacks, the poor treatment of women, or the countless lives that have been lost, , because it is not big on supporting any intent about human rights corrections either in China or other countries that have a history and system of oppressive manner and conduct. Nor is it in strong support of full equality for women as individuals. If it did, it would first support it in China. As for the other Arab nation, who are calling on the US to do something, The US should tell them, to get off their own butts and do something rather than sit in their palaces hoarding money and behind the scenes promoting the same madness in their own country. The US should not stick its neck out there as some stand alone entity, let these other Arab nation be on the front line for change, and if they don't then they need to spend their money to fund any efforts the US makes. and if they are not going to fund it, then shut up, and stop expecting someone else to come and fight their battles. then the next day they want to turn around and support terrorism against the US. I don't see how these Arab nations can be trusted. they don't even trust themselves, for if they did , they would not be blowing each other up everyday, and continuing from Arab country to Arab country supporting the madness of dressing women in that Garb and then attacking people with some moral police squads and radical factions attacking people with no prosecution of these attacking forces. Time continues to show, that no amount of effort can help people who seemingly have forces that refuse to learn, grow, or change. I would not vote to send one soldier there to get killed for something the people will revert back to doing when the forces leave, they will be back to doing the same things they were doing before, as soon as they can. I still say if they want change.. let the women 'take out the radicals in their sleep" until the rest of the men realize they too will be taken out, unless they change.
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I saw some of the extremists in a way some elderly Muslims I came across when I was in Indonesia, it was not some thing like killing people , NO. But the way they view those who is different from them, to the point where they gotten so judgmental towards Christianity , Buddhist, Hinduism .. or those whose atheist What they said only have shared among themselves in their Mosque or family gathering. but the impact are huge especially for the young Muslims generations who happened to be there and listening to them. These are almost like a doctrine .. A wrong legacy to me that needed A Stop . The lack of compassion in the way they approach the difference among us, was alarming to me ( personally ) Then I came to USA and joined A Pakistani based Mosque not too long ago, to my surprise they did the same thing with the mosque I went to when I was young in Indonesia. So I stop going there, because no use of speaking out & say my objection,.. as a woman .. and for Pakistani -- woman with different views or opinions are not very important to them, they may listen to you ... and that's all it ____________________________________________________ These are the points that push the extremist to become radicals... an ultimately in some that leads to the violence and motives of violence toward others, as well as toward those within the Muslim program, to be attacked by the Muslims who can't and won't accept being indoctrinated into the extremist and radical views. It's great that you moved away and grasp a broader understanding of people in the over-all. But sadly, there are so many young people still trapped in the dogma of extremist... this is what is dangerous about how the religion is taught. As you said: What they said only have shared among themselves in their Mosque or family gathering. but the impact are huge especially for the young Muslims generations who happened to be there and listening to them Sadly, there are extremist in every religion, and there are those who promote these dogmatic concepts that become a danger to others. I once worked with a guy who convert to Muslim, he became one that everyone wanted to avoid, he had a problem with what people chose to eat, and he was on a perpetual mission to try and change people to convert them to his way of thinking, and he began to develop anguished resentment toward people who would not listen to or submit to his ideals... His wife left him and did what she could to keep the kids away from him and ultimately he became more and more extreme, until he created many situations where hostilities were common when he was around or with whom he was interacting with. Can't remember what ever became of him, but I do know that people resented him for a long time for the method and manner he went about trying to convert them and if he could not convert people, he condemned them in his mind and by his actions toward them. there are too, Christian people who can be with the same mentality when they want to continously preach to others and insinuate that others have to submit to their way of thinking. I see some people who carry a bible every place they go, as if they have to prove to everyone else how holy they feel they are. here in this area where I live, people will ask you what Church you go to be fore they even grasp your name. Some will act like they think their church is better than another and want to treat of look down on people who don't act like they want to rush over to the church this person is preaching about. There are people who always talk about "my pastor", as if they worship the pastor more than they are concerned about the teaching of the Bibles principles. I know ministers, who act put off if people don't always refer to them as Pastor as if they are beholding to this person. I have seen some come in to talk about a business arrangement, and push that Pastor stature rather than talk about the business and the guidelines of the contract. When I encounter them, I call them, Mr. xxxx, ( what ever their name is), to get the point that they are talking about business, and their position as a Pastor does not change the contract to become to give them concessions. I see Businesses with big signs, saying "God Bless" and "Jesus Saves', and some of those places will tack on charges just like any other business and some of them don't give the best of service. One group of ministers open a Restaurant, and named it " The Last Supper"... it did not help his business any !!! there are some churches that want people to bring in their Tax returns, to insure the people are committing 10% of their salary to the Church... then there are the Churches, that are forever having ' Pastor fund raising events", such as Pastor's Anniversary, where the church is suppose to give him money. I don't care for those kind of Churches, nor for the Ministers who spend half the morning talking about tides, and its always done with an edge to try and instill guilt as a tool to make people give more. some Ministers do the circuit things, where they visit each other's church, because they get paid by the church to come, so they are in a constant cycle of rotation on this money gain circuit. The big thing now, is each Pastor trying to have the biggest church, one guy even took over a shopping Mall, rather than to realize this was a business area and it was suitable for creating jobs. But instead he already had a huge church, but after taking over this mall, he wanted an even bigger facility. Some use the 'Facility flipping" game to raise money... Sadly many of these eloborate facilities, say closed 90% of the time, open for a few hours on Sunday, and maybe a few hours a night or so during the week.... What a waste of the facility... bu much of the contribution are consumed to pay for these overly expanded facility. Rather than use the money to help the community. In some area's there is nearly a church on every block or so, and in this one particular area that has all these churches, this is one of the poorest neighborhoods in the city... ( Now how is that possible is they are teaching positive uplift of people)... Unfortunately, many preach guilt instillation and do so as an aim to make themselves the guilt reliever, and this makes people devoted to bring their money... People have to be careful when they choose a church... and even more so careful in which minister they choose to listen to as a teacher. In some churches they have a pre formatted scrip, where they do what is called the "hoop'... where they are breathing loud after ever word, and can't say three words together without stopping and repeating each word 5 times or more... with all the drama antic's built in. If one is speaking and teaching truth, the truth has its own self inspiring motivation in how the speak gets emotions... one need not pre-plan and set up some grand build up of antics. some even go to school to learn how to "put on the hoop"... over all there are countless styles people adopt in the pulpit... I never read anything about Jesus going through all these rituals, he simply lived and taught right way living, which is respect for others, compassion, good will and developing understanding and wisdom and learning to be and do for the greater good of the universal spirit of Gods Principles. .
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To tiara26: I am glad that you responded my blog. You have the courage to come out from other side of world to speak for us. I am curious to know the Arab world where I have NEVER been. I have sympathy for all the women in Middle East (especially Afghanistan), but I don't know how to help them. Yes, the education is a good tool to get knowledge and change from the root of problem. I have so many questions about you. How old were you when you came to USA? Do you like to live in USA? I think you came here when you were very young, so you can communicate in English. What is your nationality before you came to USA? I heard that Muslim have to pray 5 times a day, is that true? Thank you. I wish you well and happy in this great country that allow all the nationalities in the world come (immigrant). Honesty is the best policy.
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Some of the women, especially the wealthy ones, put on their designer stuff under the Burka.
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To 55Mark55: You said "the problem in Syria have nothing to do with religion". Please refer to Dr. Arieh Eldad's email. This is only one example of the war between Jews and Muslims in the Land of Israel. It is not a territorial conflict. Tell me, Jews and Muslims are NOT religions???? BTW, your link did NOT come through as it has been blocked by AFF. To goannaoil: Thanks God, there are some lucky women can fly out of Afghanistan with burka and changed dresses to jeans and Western gear. I am glad to hear that. They are improving and want to be treated as civilized people. How did they get those jeans or clothes? Can we use the power of internet to civilize those barbarous regions? They should have computers, right??? Honesty is the best policy.
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Remember the madness that came to exist when the Soviet Union was broken up... It is not unthinkable that this same level of madness which showed up in Iraq, can also show up in other countries that are under authoritarian regimes can come to exist... and it can do so in countries that don't claim any particular religion. but if a nations can use a religion as their aim and basis for conflict because of the masses that aspire to the religion, then it can be wrongly influenced by the religious institutions. We saw that in America during Slavery and Segregation, the churches not only supported but many promoted the continuance of slavery and segregation and kept a blind eye and some even had active covert participation in the brutalities during slavery and segregation.. It did not get the label thrust on the religion, because the Government was conveniently in support of the promotion of slavery and segregation.. thus the separation of Church and State kept it from being labeled under a religious premise. Sadly in many of the Islamic nations, there is no separation between Church and State... because the Religion and Government work as one in the same.
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The first part I'd certainly agree to the divisions created, but the part about Islam I'd not agree, because the radicals and extremist use Islam as a fulcrum to promote the violence. It's been a long time since the British and French left, if they want to have round table talks among each other and devote themselves to finding a working solution they would.. But they are individually, "power hungry"... Sadly, I don't discount external influences have a great part to do with things, As I said, we don't know who all the players are. nor do we know what influence the players exert in the promotion of this madness. what we do know, is that powerful nations do play "policy shift games" where this year they support one side and next year they support another side. If there was no oil in the region, a great deal of the madness would not be at the fever pitch it is today.
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One part of me says to have nothing to do with the middle east, let them sort their own problems. But then, another part says that there are many who are victims of such a society and would willingly change it if they had the opportunity. Do we turn our backs on them? This is the dilemma, and unfortunately the extremist and radicals take advantage of this ambiguity to further promote and plot to attack innocent people, simply because they won't submit to the madness of these extremist and radical mad men. In this sense... eventually, nations will have no choice left but to ban immigration of people from these regions into their countries. At some point these extremist and radicals Muslims will blow up something that cause the whole world to take notice and take a stand, and at that time, they will either wipe out the region or treat it like it has a fence around it.
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I really feel conflicted having this attitude about people. Because among these people there are good people who want change and try and get away from this brand of madness, Unfortunately many of them don't have the resources to get away... they result to become victims of this mad making religion's fanatical elements., It's quite sad, because as a black person, I know what its like to be labels and discriminated as a group... But also as black people, I do respect that we came together as a group to stand against brutality, acts of random violence and killing of us, just because we were non white skinned people, it is very disenchanting to have such a negative view of a group of people. Therefore as I write, I continue to make emphasis of "radical" and "fanatical" types... to try and offer some distinction to hopefully convey that I don't think all people from these regions are killer minded. Unfortunately their brand of religion fanatics seem to do more insult and mockery of the premise of God, than they do to honor the principle and premise of God's Truths and promotions of good among mankind. . Their concept of God being used by the fanatics is killing anyone who does not submit to them and their way, and turning their own into killers and/or blowing up their own people if they don't submit to some dogma like a puppet. Nothing about this is truth of God's Basis of "Do Good Will Among Mankind". They ( the fanatics) insult the nature of woman, with their controlling ignorance and indoctrinate the women by fear, force and dogmatic rituals into the degradation of the nature and life of woman. This is not the teaching of Gods words, this is the ignorance of man, creating a fanatic supported dogma to support radical aims of dominance of woman and spreading his ignorance in aims to control the masses by deception, mis-information and contorting the worlds of lessons about building goodwill among mankind. They (unfortunately the masses) too often are relegated to live in makeshift dirt and rock covered landscapes being led by the foolish cleric's who abuse and misuse the concept of God for their evil promotions, who are funding by the wealthy and the sheik's who live in manicured oasis in the middle of the desert with every imaginable luxury, while these same wealthy ones feed them ignorance and stupidity, to keep them unaware, while the wealthy hoard everything from the natural resources to support their opulence, at the expense of maintaining the masses in a cycle of stupidity, violence and deprivation. How can you open up to be with trust, when they become 'sleepers" lying in wait to blow up something or someone. No one can name any place that is highly populated with extremist Muslims where they are not killing each other and plotting to kill others. they move this killer mentality with them when they move to places and mass together... the result is too much terrorist activity. Yes, it is not good to stereotype people, but they continue to paint the same picture and that picture becomes a danger to others. It makes no sense that the radical Muslim leaders who claim wealth in the billions, and then live with aims of capitalism and a sense of democracy among themselves as the wealthy, and then support the masses being Muslims led and or controlled along with being contained by extremist. The US spent a Trillion+ in dollars trying to help them get rid of this craziness and they sit on their ass and let the maniac's come right back into their homes and front yards and re-indoctrinate them back into the cycles of ignorance. What other place do you see daily a mass of people in a mob scene throwing rocks at people with guns. That many people seem to be unable to wake up and realize they don't have jobs, because if they did, they'd not have time to be in the streets fighting against anyone who tries to come and help them. Too many of these people know exactly who the bombers are, they know who the killers are before the killers attack others, but they don't say a thing, and then act dumbfounded with the same killers blow up some of their own family members. You can't help people who choose to remain in that cycle of silliness and continue to follow the radical and fanatical cleric based leaders.. How many nations have gone there to try and promote change, and each time, they are fought against and eventually they just give up and leave. Trying to sort those who want change from those who don't sadly has opened too many places up to allow the radicals to come in, because they are skilled at practicing deception to further their aims to gravitate to other places to ultimately plot and plan to kill innocent people, all because the people won't submit to this evilness. The ones who push and take a stand to try and promote change, the people won't support them, and ultimately the promoters of change, become overcome or killed, because the masses won't speak up and stand up for change. Unfortunately this is not the only group,, Right here in America, some of the Hindu people from India, have had their daughters killed and some of them kill their daughters themselves, just because the woman choose whom she wants to be with and tries to live her life as a independent person. Again, Look at the assholes who blew up the people at the Boston Marathon. It's guaranteed if you turn on the News TODAY, it will have a headline where some of them have blown up 20 or more people, and destroyed something. I guarantee if these Radical and Extremist Muslim killer types go to China or Russia and start blowing up people and things, the Russian and Chinese will take a totally different stand than they currently take, and they would wipe these people out and rid them from their environment. They'd probably enact a ban and block them from entering China or Russia. Even in Thailand, the Radical Muslim uprising resulted to many threats, bombing and other acts of violence against the general Thai people. The US and the British and French spend many billions of dollars every year, trying to identify and stop attacks by these Muslim Extremist who have infiltrated their lands. Yet, each of these nations continue to try and be humane and keep its border's open to all people to immigrate, but the sad part is the killer mined, mix themselves in with the non killer minded, and through that deception process, they slip into these countries. We here push to make it difficult for Mexicans to immigrate here, but Mexicans come and they will work, and we don't see Mexican people coming here to blow up things, they come and help built things. What is the answer to this madness...??? It's crazy, because as I said earlier, some of the people I knew in LA who were from these regions are good people, and they were very good friends, they simply wanted to make a better life for their family and they were workers who contributed to the community and were very gracious in their friendships. When 9/11 happened, they were outraged at the shadow that was cast upon them by these Muslim extremist. they even went into re-doubled efforts in working to try and get people to not see them as being associated with this madness. I felt so bad for them and the people whom were in our circles of work associate and friends, did all we could to let them know, we appreciated them as individuals. Someone is funding the madness in these Middle East Countries, and if they are not making 5-6 times the amount of money per barrel of oil, we can be assured they will gladly spend $5-$10 dollars or more of that profit gain to insure that the fighting and bombing continues, because it insures they can still elevate the price of Oil. There has to be a massive level of complicity in this process and we simply don't know who all the players are who promote and support this continued bombing and killings..
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You took the words out of my mouth. "The blatant ignorance and stupidity of these people infuriates me." How can a woman so stupid asking forgiveness by wearing a suicide belt and tried to blow-up the hospital where once saved her life? Ridiculous !! How can we save them, if they are so stupid NOT knowing what is right and what is wrong? They are all sick people (males & females) separate from this modern world. If there is a God exist, please use his power to correct these stupid regimes to people. If there is a God, please show me the miracle. What is God? God is supposed to do what human can't do. But where is God, when we need him? I want to help those people, but I am NOT capable to do. Al-Lah is Muslim God should talk to Christian's God. I am an Agnostic, I doubt there is a God. We are just human, doing what human do. We were born, we breath, eat, sleep, educated, married, have children, .... we die. Hope we don't have regret when we leave this world. Honesty is the best policy.
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Since Middle East regions are so incomprehensible to us. Can we use the modern social media methods, such as emails, blogs, FaceBook, Twitter, ... to educate them? We are in 2013, internet can reach to everywhere. Perhaps, we can use these peaceful methods to change them slowly and gradually. Look our U.S. society, Miley Cyrus VMA performance. OMG, send Miley Cyrus to Mid-East, especially to Afghanistan. She will be stoned. The Western cultures are so different from Mid-Eastern cultures. She meant to explode herself in the outpatient clinic of the hospital where they saved her life. It seems that her family promised her that if she did that, they would forgive her. The blatant ignorance and stupidity of these people infuriates me. they used her love and want of love to try and turn her into a killer of others. These people are sick and they should be banned from immigrating any place... to do so, screen them very heavily, and for any women who seek to escape this backward ignorance, then each human being respecting nation should open the doors and let them in. The men who create this system in these crazy nation should be lined up and executed and rid the world of this brand of stupidity. I have very little regard for these dogmatic types who become such fanatical fools led by a bunch of cleric's who should be tried for human abuse in the madness they teach. These same wealthy of these lands who fund and support this ignorance, import and even buy women on an underground market for their sexual pleasure, and then want to get up publicly and pretend they are such devout hard line Muslims who aspire to some ancient ignorance, as if they have been appointed to be the ruler of women., In too many religions, their structure is too much designed around regulating the sexual lives of women. If you note in almost every religion it has an aim to control and regulate the sexual lives of women... Respect women as people and they will manage their own sexual lives as they see want to do. Even with the situation of Miley and the antic's she did along with other female entertainers who can't keep their clothes on, are caught up in the cycle of madness of following the money making script of Hollywood usury of women's sex to promote sales... they have deluded these women to not rely on their talent, but to present themselves as sex toys and lure drivers of lusting aims, as a scheme for the pursuit of fame and money. Sadly, these women don't know any better and sell themselves into the madness for the sake of popularity and a payday. I don't see why a man would be motivated to choose any of the entertainer as a wife, because they are caught into a programming that is not conducive to developing a family that has a moral fiber about the respectful nature of sex and its function. One model or there have been a few, who opened their eyes, but they did so only after they got enough money and attached themselves to a man with even more money... then they left the modeling, because they said, they suddenly became aware of how they were used as sex lure objects .... and not really seen as a individual or respected as a person. Sadly, they chose this route because they wanted the money and the attention. But many families groom their daughter to be 'Covert prostitutes"... marketing themselves to the highest bidder... Only when some women get older do they realize they have lived as a covert form of prostitute, by then some have been through 2-3 or more marriages and countless other relations where they not only contributed to the havoc some were the catylsis of this havoc because they were not aware enough to live beyond the way they were groomed. By the time some reach their 40's and the physical lure is not working, only then do they wake up and want to be in a relationship for the 'sharing of love",... rather than as being, being in a relationship because they assumed they should be worships and bought at every turn while they play the on and off attitude games trying to extract submission of the man to fulfill her whims. I have a friend who has two daughters, she said, she keep them busy, enrolling them into character building programs, and do not buy them the sexual lure things nor does she teach them to try and use their body and face to manipulate situations, and she does not want them thinking they can use the fact of being female to expect concessions to be afforded to them... She said she is no interested in raising daugher who are on money and status search when they seek a man for a mate, she want them to seek the man as a person, without the pursuit of trying to measure his walled and what they think they can get from him. I appreciate her and respect how she thinks, when I worked with her, she was a good worker and did not mind doing her part of the job... she was then as now a very pretty woman, who could probably have used the lure of her looks and figure to try and get by, but she did not go that route. Now, years later I see that she was genuine, because she is teaching self value to her daughters and teaching them to see men as people, not a meal, trinket and rent ticket. Our system are what is screwed up... Right here in America we have too much prostitute training going on in the homes, until these women are filled with vain and selfish aims, and then throw tantrums when men don't devote his whole life to submitting to this madness. The minute the men is not kissing their butt, they then claim that the relationship is not working and they are ready to leave and try to take everything they can get. If the Muslim think they are avoiding this by their method, they are wrong, all they are doing is trying to make the women live as some puppet that he can pull the strings and make her do as he expects. Neither of these examples benefit society, it does not benefit the man, nor does it benefit the woman... beyond the ego trips these men and these women get from these two perspective they are caught within. When people learn to RESPECT what is a HELP MATE, only then when man and woman find the true nature of their roles as a mated pair. God laid it out plain and simple... with the term HELP MATES No other title is needed between a man and woman, the rest is driven by the honest nature of love and the sharing of loves interactive realism. Nothing ever said Adam and Eve was husband and wife, it said they were HELP MATES. ONLY WHEN the King and Queen delusions came into being was people set out on the madness trails and when Clergy proclaimed themselves as if to be above the basis of God, does things get into the craziness cycle. I see people now, who talk about their pastors as if they are Gods, when these are nothing but human men, who teaches and discuss the words and wisdom's of honest and honorable living as is what the Bible's aim is to outline about life and the human being in relation to God. All the other ritualistic stuff that many religions are riddled with is created by man's own vanity. .
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Since Middle East regions are so incomprehensible to us. Can we use the modern social media methods, such as emails, blogs, FaceBook, Twitter, ... to educate them? We are in 2013, internet can reach to everywhere. Perhaps, we can use these peaceful methods to change them slowly and gradually. Look our U.S. society, Miley Cyrus VMA performance. OMG, send Miley Cyrus to Mid-East, especially to Afghanistan. She will be stoned. The Western cultures are so different from Mid-Eastern cultures. Honesty is the best policy.
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I received an email from my friend on 8/28/2013 regarding Middle East culture that I would like to share with you. Subject: Ingrid's amazing win Dear friends, Ingrid, an Avaaz member, helped save a Norwegian woman from being jailed for being in Dubai -- she started a petition on Avaaz and the social media storm it created kept pressure up on governments to act. Now the woman is free! And it all started with one simple step: click below to start a campaign on an issue you care about, it's incredibly quick and easy! Start a petition Ingrid, an Avaaz member, has used our site to help save a Norwegian woman from being sent to jail for being ! Marte Dalelv was sexually assaulted while visiting Dubai, but when she reported it to the police, she was sentenced to 16 months in prison for "extra-marital sex"! When Ingrid read about Marte's case, she started a petition on Avaaz calling on the Dubai and Norwegian governments to ensure Marte's release. The petition and the Facebook page she created exploded on social media and people from all over the world signed the petition and flooded the two governments with messages at addresses that Ingrid posted on her Avaaz petition page. Within days, Marte was released, and the Foreign Minister Espen Barth Eide posted a Twitter message saying: "Marte is released! Thanks to everyone who signed up to help." Ingrid's campaign was covered by major media outlets and clearly ramped up the diplomatic pressure to free Marte and bring her home to her family. And it all started with a simple step of starting a petition on the Avaaz community website. Think of an issue you care about and click here to get started -- it's incredibly quick and easy to start a campaign: I also received an email on 8/27/2013 regarding Middle East culture. From: Dr. Arieh Eldad: Arab Mentality I was instrumental in establishing the Israeli National Skin Bank, which is the largest in the world. The National Skin Bank stores skin for every day needs as well as for war time or mass casualty situations. This skin bank is hosted at the Hadassah Ein Kerem University hospital in Jerusalem where I was the Chairman of plastic surgery. This is how I was asked to supply skin for an Arab woman from Gaza, who was hospitalized in Soroka Hospital in Beersheva, after her family burned her. Usually, such atrocities happen among Arab families when the women are suspected of having an affair. We supplied all the needed Homografts for her treatment. She was successfully treated by my friend and colleague, Prof. Lior Rosenberg and discharged to return to Gaza. She was invited for regular follow-up visits to the outpatient clinic in Beersheva. One day she was caught at a border crossing wearing a suicide belt. She meant to explode herself in the outpatient clinic of the hospital where they saved her life. It seems that her family promised her that if she did that, they would forgive her. This is only one example of the war between Jews and Muslims in the Land of Israel. It is not a territorial conflict. This is a conflict of civilizations or rather a war between civilization & barbarism. I have never written before asking to please forward onwards so that as many as possible can understand radical Islam and what awaits the world if it is not stopped. Dr Arieh Eldad These are the sad stories that happened in Mid-East regions. Honesty is the best policy.
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Thanks for all your responses. I feel very frustrated that we tried to rescue the women in Middle East regions, but we can't reach to them. We can't change them. It is sad to see those women behind the ugly burkas. What a humiliation to all mankind. How can you recognize your girlfriend in the public? Women are beautiful, why use burkas to cover them? Why stone those women when the "sex" is between male and female. I see women who come to western society and they still submit to wearing this stuff. As to the stoning people for sex, that is barbaric... I'd say like the men up for the firing squad and ten bullet to each man for every individual rock he threw. I'd also say, line up the people who run around as moral police, maybe castrate them first and then award them with a few bullets each in the head. when these types are wiped out, then maybe society will improve in these regions for these women and children alike. I still think the best method is for the women to identify these dogmatic types, and selectively 'take them out in their sleep, or inject his ass with something that insures he does not wake up, and do so in mass numbers until the rest of the men get the message that women are not going to live under this repression and abusive control mechanisms created by man. I will bet in no time short the men will change and they will do so gladly.
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Thanks for all your responses. I feel very frustrated that we tried to rescue the women in Middle East regions, but we can't reach to them. We can't change them. It is sad to see those women behind the ugly burkas. What a humiliation to all mankind. How can you recognize your girlfriend in the public? Women are beautiful, why use burkas to cover them? Why stone those women when the "sex" is between male and female. Honesty is the best policy.
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It's no quick answer to the problems there, but I do think the women in some of these regions may be the closest thing to an answer... Because if the women could get enough support to help them 'get rid of these men of madness", then the women would be the ones who first teach the next generation of kids against this kind of stuff. One thing is sure, the men are not going to kill off the women to further his ignorant self centered aims, because he is not dumb enough to think he can survive long without women. How this could be achieved is itself low in probability. But if by some means the women identified these radicals and targeted them for removal, then those nations would be able to find means to change.
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I think we should not go there.. As you said, these people have an ideology that is not going to be changed by an attack.. We see that from Iraq and Afghanistan. Everyday, they set off bombs blowing up their own people. There is not a day that has gone by in for sure the lat 10-15 years, they have no blown up a group of people or something. I have "0" interest to go there. as to their attitude toward women, I wish the women would group together by some means, and start attacking the Muslim men who promote the madness of oppression of women. I bet if a few thousand of these women, "knock these men off in their sleep", the rest of the men will get the message !! Its' like America Slavery, I know I would not have survived it, because there is no way that I'd allow someone to beat me with a whip and other such stuff. It would have been a lot less slaver owners, because I would have create my own brand of "Nat Turner's Raids". ( Nathaniel "Nat" Turner (October 2, 1800 – November 11, 1831) was an American slave who led a slave rebellion in Virginia ) I would certainly hope to have planned better, to insure that I get the one who made the laws that promoted slavery as well as those who ran the auction house to sell people as slaves. It would have been good to get the 'cook" on board, to insure that the last meal some of them ate would be unmistakable in their last minute of awareness as to why it is their last meal. The sad thing about a strike, NOTHING goes as planned to the final aimed resulted perfectly. Now even if the Leader is taken out, the factions and the wealthy will only continue to promote havoc... leave them alone and when they blow up enough of each other and destroy enough of their landscape maybe they will act like civil human beings and come to regard each other as equal people, or they will continue and wipe each other out. A great deal of the madness in these region is Religious Based Fanaticism and Pure Ignorance. Other parts have to do with a long history of occupations and regime changes during the removal of the occupiers. Killing is now ingrained in the last two to four generations, they probably would not know what to do if they abandon the aim of killing. Not only in countries that are Muslim, but any place they go, they bring terror games and try to dominate and expect others to submit to their brand of religious madness and blowing up stuff and people. Maybe the best thing any nation can do is 'Ban Muslims Immigration" and if the "Hindu" or other religious factions, do some of the same them "Ban" them to, to remain in the part of the world that supports their brand of religion. It is evident they have a difficult time living among other people and respecting other peoples rights to not follow their brand of lifestyle. The really sad part of banning them, is I've known people who follow this religion, they did not put their women in this garb, nor did they deny their children education and many of them lived the way American people live... they left all that "ritual stuff" which is common in their home country, when they came here to live... They did not spend all day trying to convert others, nor did they spent their time trying to change other people to follow the habits of the radial Muslims. As to the multiple wives, I think out side of any religion, people should have as many wives or husbands as they want. because that is agreements made between individuals. We see what happen when Saddam was removed, Yes he was brutal, but the people of that region evidentally needed the threat of brutality to keep them from killing each other. I don't support Saddam's methods, but I do know that he knew more about the people of the region than we know about the people of the region. Sadly, some people will only remain contained into some civil manner, by threat and force... this is the outcome of radicalism in religious factions and the madness of cleric's who pursue power through inciting conflict. I think President Obama, should get the consensus and support of Congress ... Period... don't allow himself to be pushed as if he has to act like some strong man, just to convince others that he is not soft of addressing wrongs. But do it with the support of congress, not as a stand alone decision outside of congressional support. As to the UN, they don't stand up to address anything, because its always players in there who don't care about the wrongs done to others, they only care about their profit model and if it will hurt their profits. Sadly, Russia and China fit that posture. China does not stand up to help fight terrorism nor anything, but they want to sell their goods to everyone and keep labor cost low to force other countries business to falter. But Eventually, China will have its own internal uprising because no nation can continue in the manner and method of China without reaping the consequences internally of its own actions and stance. Russia, does not care as long as it can sell arms and other fighting equipment to these nations. Russia still has too much passionate devotion to people containment, and seems to support any nations that equally has the aims to oppress its people. Because the hard line communist mentality has not been eradicated in the Russian Leadership ranks. Eventually the people of Russia will get fed up with their own system and its methods and manners and their conflict will rise up within their own shores and borders. The big frightful thing of these two nations is they have nukes, and who knows what faction will get them if they have an internal uprising. the same is true with Pakistan. Too many other countries sit on their butt, rather than group together to fight Terrorism, and the bulk of the Middle East countries sit silent as long as they can profit highly from oil during conflicts, they would rather be silent in support of conflict to help their profits and may even pay to keep the conflict going to increase their profits. If these things escalate to another World War, it may even bring multiple nukes to wipe out most of the Middle East, Its a sad reality, but it is not unthinkable on the world stage of where and what war becomes.
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